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Message no. 1
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:44:24 -0700
Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's all a
first draft effort.

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm

-David
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Message no. 2
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:49:02 -0600
> Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's all a
> first draft effort.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm
>
the link to the Deal.jpg is broaken :( it still thinks it's on your
computer.

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Message no. 3
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:55:50 -0500
>Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's all a
>first draft effort.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm

Let me be the first to say "I like mine better!" ;-)

The link to Deal.gif is broken - it's referring to:
file:///C:/Program%20Files/Netscape/Communicator/Program/Shadowrun/Deal.
jpg
which I didn't happen to have... Why the jester's cap? In-joke for
Lady J?

James Ojaste
Message no. 4
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:06:32 -0500
On 17 Mar 98 at 13:44, David Buehrer wrote:

> Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's
> all a first draft effort.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm

Good, good. But fix that link. I want to see that dragon!

BTW, we should put all these entries in one place so people can see
them, comment on them, and eventually vote on them.

I can do it (I have the webspace) but my HTML skills suck, and I am a
sloth shaman. :)

So, any volunteers?

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Message no. 5
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:33:20 -0700
Drekhead wrote:
/
/ On 17 Mar 98 at 13:44, David Buehrer wrote:
/
/ > Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's
/ > all a first draft effort.
/ >
/ > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm
/
/ Good, good. But fix that link. I want to see that dragon!

Drat!

/ BTW, we should put all these entries in one place so people can see
/ them, comment on them, and eventually vote on them.

If someone does some artwork, but doesn't have a website to put it on, feel
free to email it to me *personally* and I'll put it on my site.

Other than that I think it's easier if individual put it on their own web
sites for easy access to make changes.

Now, if someone would volunteer to put links to all the T-shirt art on
their site....

/ I can do it (I have the webspace) but my HTML skills suck, and I am a
/ sloth shaman. :)

Can you do links? :)

-David
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Message no. 6
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:42:04 -0700
Ojaste,James [NCR] wrote:
/
/ >Okay, here's my entry. I changed the motif just a tad. And, it's all a
/ >first draft effort.
/ >
/ >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/T-Shirt.htm
/
/ Let me be the first to say "I like mine better!" ;-)

yeah yeah ;)

/ The link to Deal.gif is broken - it's referring to:

It's fixed now <grump>

/ Why the jester's cap? In-joke for
/ Lady J?

It's supposed to be the joker card cut in half, which is what a
shadowrunner will be if he deals with a dragon. Or was that to
subtle :)

-David
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Message no. 7
From: "David E. Smith" <dave@********.ML.ORG>
Subject: Re: T-shirt art
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:17:59 +0000
On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Drekhead wrote:

> BTW, we should put all these entries in one place so people can see
> them, comment on them, and eventually vote on them.

I'll set up the beta version of said site this evening. Until the
individual artists give me their okay (off-list, please; it's noisy
enough around here already) I'll just have links, not the actual
artwork. I'll try to track down a "voting" script so I don't have
to write one.

dave "how do I get myself involved in these things?"


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Message no. 8
From: "David Buehrer (by way of David Buehrer
Subject: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:09:16 -0700
I just thought of a way to story board everything.

"Watch Your Back": Decker is blissfully decking while an elf sneaks
up behind him.

"Shoot Straight": The picture Michael Harrison has (decker caught in
the sites of a smartgun).

"Conserve Ammo": The decker whiping his brow in relief, outlined by
bullet holes on the wall behind him with the targeting site pointing
off to the side and an "out of ammo" message from the smart gun link.

"And Never, Ever, Cut a Deal with a Dragon": The elf trying to
return the gun over a shop counter while the dragon shop owner points
at the sign that says "No Refunds!"

What do you think?

-David
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Message no. 9
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:17:36 -0500
On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 02:09:16PM -0700, David Buehrer (by way of David Buehrer
<dbuehrer@******.carl.org>) wrote:
> I just thought of a way to story board everything.
>
> "Watch Your Back": Decker is blissfully decking while an elf sneaks
> up behind him.
>
> "Shoot Straight": The picture Michael Harrison has (decker caught in
> the sites of a smartgun).
>
> "Conserve Ammo": The decker whiping his brow in relief, outlined by
> bullet holes on the wall behind him with the targeting site pointing
> off to the side and an "out of ammo" message from the smart gun link.
>
> "And Never, Ever, Cut a Deal with a Dragon": The elf trying to
> return the gun over a shop counter while the dragon shop owner points
> at the sign that says "No Refunds!"
>
> What do you think?
>
YES! ROTFLOL! The last one is the best. No doubt about it.

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Message no. 10
From: Michael Harrison <spaced@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:41:28 -0500
David Buehrer wrote:
> > "And Never, Ever, Cut a Deal with a Dragon": The elf trying to
> > return the gun over a shop counter while the dragon shop owner points
> > at the sign that says "No Refunds!"

Is this the same sneaky little elf from "Watch Your Back"? I was
wondering, to maybe continue the Little Loser Decker theme, we could
have him trying to return a deck or a gun or whatever... hmmm. Just a
thought (the idea is the coolest, though.)

> YES! ROTFLOL! The last one is the best. No doubt about it.

Ditto, man. Ditto.

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Message no. 11
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:48:13 -0500
On 19 Mar 98 at 14:09, David Buehrer wrote:

> I just thought of a way to story board everything.
<snipped>
> What do you think?

LOL! Awesome, David. I like it.

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Message no. 12
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:16:12 EST
In a message dated 98-03-19 16:11:57 EST, dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG writes:

<snipped the "Story Board" pictures...>

> What do you think?
>
> -David

That would be cool enough. Especially if we could use the name "Lofwyr" on
the dragon somehow...it's so like him, you know..???

-K
Message no. 13
From: Michael Harrison <spaced@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:41:21 -0500
Ereskanti wrote:
>
> That would be cool enough. Especially if we could use the name "Lofwyr" on
> the dragon somehow...it's so like him, you know..???

I can just see it! A little name tag: "Hello, my name is LOFWYR." :)

Also, I got a few emails telling me that the crosshairs on the "Shoot
Straight" cartoon should be red. We should probably discuss the color
issue. So far, I think we're limited to about three colors. Does that
include black. Or white, if the shirt itself is black.

Wow. Speaking of THAT, what color SHOULD the t-shirt be? Heheheh.

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Message no. 14
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:59:50 EST
In a message dated 98-03-19 19:16:57 EST, you write:

> > What do you think?
> >
> > -David
>
> That would be cool enough. Especially if we could use the name "Lofwyr"
on
> the dragon somehow...it's so like him, you know..???

How about Saedder Kruppe or one of the other megacorps (including the DFMR,
IIUC).

Mike
Message no. 15
From: Geoff Morochnick <bodiam@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:59:34 -0500
> Straight" cartoon should be red. We should probably discuss the color
> issue. So far, I think we're limited to about three colors. Does that
> include black. Or white, if the shirt itself is black.
>
> Wow. Speaking of THAT, what color SHOULD the t-shirt be? Heheheh.
>
> --
> Michael A. Harrison, Jr. <spaced@**********.com>

If the crosshairs are going to be red, which would look excellent, the shirt
should probably be white, with blank ink and the red crosshairs, so that the red
can show up well.

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Message no. 16
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:55:03 +0100
Michael Harrison said on 19:41/19 Mar 98...

> Also, I got a few emails telling me that the crosshairs on the "Shoot
> Straight" cartoon should be red. We should probably discuss the color
> issue. So far, I think we're limited to about three colors. Does that
> include black. Or white, if the shirt itself is black.
>
> Wow. Speaking of THAT, what color SHOULD the t-shirt be? Heheheh.

Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one was
an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for SR
shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.

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Message no. 17
From: Paolo Marcucci <marcucci@***.TS.ASTRO.IT>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:52:15 +0100
> Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one was
> an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for SR
> shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.

Use the background of the archive :)

-P.
Message no. 18
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:30:52 -0700
At 10:55 20/03/98 +0100, you wrote:

>> Wow. Speaking of THAT, what color SHOULD the t-shirt be? Heheheh.
>
>Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one was
>an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for SR
>shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.

I second that. I'm not going to be wearing the '97 one in public, simply
because it's this off-white cream colour that I don't like at all.

-Adam J

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Message no. 19
From: rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:59:04 -0600
>> Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one
was
>> an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for
SR
>> shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.
>
>Use the background of the archive :)
>


Dark grey shows those colors well.

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Message no. 20
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:17:53 -0700
Airwasp wrote:
/
/ In a message dated 98-03-19 19:16:57 EST, you write:
/
/ > > What do you think?
/ > >
/ > > -David
/ >
/ > That would be cool enough. Especially if we could use the name "Lofwyr"
on
/ > the dragon somehow...it's so like him, you know..???
/
/ How about Saedder Kruppe or one of the other megacorps (including the DFMR,
/ IIUC).

Or put a little "SK" on the gun.

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Message no. 21
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:20:53 -0700
Michael Harrison wrote:
/
/ David Buehrer wrote:
/ > > "And Never, Ever, Cut a Deal with a Dragon": The elf trying to
/ > > return the gun over a shop counter while the dragon shop owner points
/ > > at the sign that says "No Refunds!"
/
/ Is this the same sneaky little elf from "Watch Your Back"?

Yep, that's what I was thinking.

/ wondering, to maybe continue the Little Loser Decker theme, we could
/ have him trying to return a deck or a gun or whatever... hmmm. Just a
/ thought (the idea is the coolest, though.)

It'd be nice to finish with the elf to show that no matter which end of the
stick you're on (the guy with the gun or the target) you can get screwed.

-David
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Message no. 22
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:58:14 -0500
At 10:55 AM 3/20/98 +0100, Gurth wrote these timeless words:
>Michael Harrison said on 19:41/19 Mar 98...
>
>> Also, I got a few emails telling me that the crosshairs on the "Shoot
>> Straight" cartoon should be red. We should probably discuss the color
>> issue. So far, I think we're limited to about three colors. Does that
>> include black. Or white, if the shirt itself is black.
>>
>> Wow. Speaking of THAT, what color SHOULD the t-shirt be? Heheheh.
>
>Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one was
>an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for SR
>shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.
>
Agreed... Depending on the artwork we go with, I'd like Black or a Dark
Blue... Let's face it, Black is a much better color than white (or off
white:)) for most of us "stinky" gamers :]

BTW: Since I missed the 97 T-SHirt thread when they came in... Let's just
say that the red background for the artwork does not work well with the
off-white/tan t-shirt. Looks too damn pink :]

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Message no. 23
From: Quicksilver <qwksilvr@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:10:10 -0600
At 08:59 PM 3/20/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>> Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last one was
>>> an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable for SR
>>> shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.
>>
>>Use the background of the archive :)
>>
>
>
>Dark grey shows those colors well.
>
>Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com

Your wife still trying to steer you away from black t-shirts Argent? ;)

Hg

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Message no. 24
From: rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Art
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:36:23 -0600
>At 08:59 PM 3/20/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>>> Falling back on the others, the first three were black, the last
one was
>>>> an off-white color. I don't think white(ish) is all that suitable
for SR
>>>> shirts, though. Something dark would be better, IMHO.
>>>
>>>Use the background of the archive :)
>>>
>>
>>
>>Dark grey shows those colors well.
>>
>>Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com
>
> Your wife still trying to steer you away from black t-shirts
Argent? ;)
>


LAUGH! Just noticing myself that I have a whole lot of black T-shirts
in there.

I mean, basic black is always fashionably acceptable, but there are
limits....

Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com
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Message no. 25
From: Glenn Royer groyer@********.EDU
Subject: T-Shirt Art
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:02:32 -0500
to everyone interested in T-Shirt Art:

hi there

i just got my settings for the list straight (so now i AM receiving
messages) and saw that there was T-shirt talk. I have to say that this
is something I've always wanted to do so I submit myself as an artist
candidate. Please view some of my artwork at:
members.tripod.com/~glenn_royer
I have a selection of specifically shadowrun related art at:
members.tripod.com/~glenn_royer/SR_pics

I must note that these images were done when I was interested in doing a
web page... which was quite some time ago. this t-shirt opportunity
will cause me to scan some of my newer SR-related sketches.
this represents my facility in traditional media. My computer generated
work deals in montage. examples can be found within
members.tripod.com/~glenn_royer
and
www.rsad.edu/~groyer (very recent)
please email if you would like to see larger scale versions of these.
-Glenn Royer


PS- Any other listmembers participate in Megacon Shadowrun games in
Orlando a few weeks ago?

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