|Um, anyone heard of Shadowrun? (part 2)
|Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:40:51 -0500
<A bunch of them>
Alright I suppose I spoke too quickly. Perhaps I overestimated the problem,
or miscategorized it. For that I'm sorry. I was REALLY irritated at the
whole discussion of societal groups, which I found condecending and
For all those who made newbie references, I've been on the list under
various names for about 4 years now. I'm not a newbie complaining about not
getting things. I merely mentioned in-jokes as an example of the problem.
The list has always required a good bit of filtering for useful
information, that's understandable of any forum. DSF requires a bit also,
just not as much.
My problem more specifically is the near lack of useful threads left on
the list. Perhaps this COMES from the alienation of newbies, I don't know. I
remember getting quite a few run ideas off the list, very cool stuff. I
remember having spirited discussions with Gurth on the topic of firearms,
and learned much. I even remember the birth of an in joke or two. All that
has seemed to wane in recent years. I unsubscribed for a while when the
noise got too high. I read different topics depending on my mood and my
needs at the time. The point there is that there were enough discussions on
enough different SR realted topics for me to be able to, and at times HAVE
to decide what to read and what to let slip by.
Someone mentioned SR slowing down a bit in recent years. I disagree.
Perhaps the book schedule slowed a bit, but SR itself is still as lively as
ever. Go over to DSF if you disagree. There are people posting constantly
with ideas for runs, questions about rules, stories about humorous or
enjoyable runs "and much much more!". The thing is SR hasn't slowed, this
In the weeks leading up to halloween, how many discussions about scaring
your players, about horror runs, about anything even vaguely halloweenish
came up? I didn't see any. At DSF? Off the top of my head I can think of
about 4 topics with about 200 posts total. Isn't swapping war stories part
of what this community is about? I thought so.
So for those who think SR has slowed, I counter with this. It hasn't,
you (plural) have. This list has become so much of a community that it is
forgetting or has forgot what the community organized arond to begin with.
Maybe all the posters have already heard all the war stories they have to
share with each other. Then it's time to get some new blood. It's out there,
I've seen it. Lets hear their stories. Let's hear what the new players and
GMs ae doing with this world we all love. It's kinda creepy to think this
but it sounds like the world in general. The older we get the less we do (in
most cases). The world is shaped by the young.
I know this isn't entirely true, I assume most of you folks are still
playing. What happened last week? What happened last year? I want to hear
all this stuff, even if I've heard it before, it was good then it's good
On eliteism: So what? So some people know more about what's going on at
Fasa than others. So what? How many people's games are 100% cannon anyway?
We should be happy to have people with connections at Fasa on the list so
that our voice counts for something. They can take it to Fasa with them. And
if you're just bitter about not having those connections yourself, well
that's just childish, and you won't ever get them by going to war against
those who do.
Let's remember what we're here for. If we don't let's declare it! Come
on people. I don't WANT to leave. I just want to absorb all the SR material
(cannon or no) that I can for MY game. I don't think I'm alone in this.
Sorry for the long post.