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From:	Short Fuse <JMCPHERS@******.BITNET>
Subject:	Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 00:41:51 -0400

Message no. 1 Yo. People.
KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
128 new messages!!!
And, in the time it takes for my LOGiN.COM (rc.local for all you unix users) to
load, 4 MORE COME IN!
(And in the time it took to type this, ANOTHER CAME IN!)

I can only ask...
IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!

Thank you.

PS: In the next 30 seconds, all messages sent to me (note that every single
one of the 133++ is shadowrn) will self-destruct. If there was anything
profoundly interesting in there, please summarize and resubmit at a later date.

//\\ Jim McPherson
<< >> JMCPHERS@****.stevens-tech.edu
\\// Randomizing randomness for a better random day.
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y+(**)

From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 00:02:41 -0600

Message no. 2 On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, Short Fuse wrote:

> Yo. People.
> KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
> This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
> 128 new messages!!!

This is a busy list.

> And, in the time it takes for my LOGiN.COM (rc.local for all you unix users) to
> load, 4 MORE COME IN!
> (And in the time it took to type this, ANOTHER CAME IN!)

Pity

> I can only ask...
> IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
> BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!

Yes. :-)

Try setting your distribution options to DIGEST, you will then get all of
the stuff in only one mailing, and save much space in header files.

____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu
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From:	The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 00:35:23 GMT

Message no. 3 >This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
>128 new messages!!!

MAybe you should switch to digest format, extract and print to peruse
at your leisure. I don't think people wil stop sending information out, though
I agree the more superfluous ones (such as quoting an entire message to say
"yeah, I think so too" could be cut back on.

J Roberson

From:	Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 17:06:18 +1100

Message no. 4 Jim McPherson
> I can only ask...
> IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
> BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!

This stunned me. It's one of the most arrogant postings I've ever seen
on the net.

Let us know if you go on holidays for a week, so we'll know to cut our posts
down correspondingly.

And I guess you can be the arbiter of what's important enough to send.

The digest idea may solve your problem; otherwise I'd suggest you get off
the list.

luke@********.only.for.myself

From:	Chris Siebenmann <cks@********.UTCS.TORONTO.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 02:17:33 -0500

Message no. 5 [Jim McPherson complains about the mailing list volume]

This is going to sound condescending but:

If you can't handle the volume, sorry. We aren't going to stop
talking; we talk for our convenience, not yours.

I believe there's a digest mode; people drowning under the messages
might want to switch to it. People on Unix systems can use a mail
filtering program instead (I use procmail; send email for details).

- cks

From:	Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 09:36:17 -0500

Message no. 6 On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, Chris Siebenmann wrote:

> [Jim McPherson complains about the mailing list volume]
>
> This is going to sound condescending but:
>
> If you can't handle the volume, sorry. We aren't going to stop
> talking; we talk for our convenience, not yours.

I wonder if he thought about the volume of useless mail he was creating by
posting that we should not post useless mail? Makes you wonder.....

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From:	CJ Wendt <cwendt@***.UNR.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 08:33:12 -0700

Message no. 7 ok.... I can see a person getting upset, but I jujst subscribed to tyhis
mailer, and LOVE iT!!!! I don;t care that every morning I have almost 100
messages..( I also subsribe to AD&D-L) but I still love it...I say...
DEAL WITH IT!!!! I am.

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On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, Luke Kendall wrote:

> Jim McPherson
> > I can only ask...
> > IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
> > BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!
>
> This stunned me. It's one of the most arrogant postings I've ever seen
> on the net.
>
> Let us know if you go on holidays for a week, so we'll know to cut our posts
> down correspondingly.
>
> And I guess you can be the arbiter of what's important enough to send.
>
> The digest idea may solve your problem; otherwise I'd suggest you get off
> the list.
>
> luke@********.only.for.myself

From:	steven mancini <mancinis@******.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 12:03:20 EST

Message no. 8 To quote Short Fuse:
]
] Yo. People.
] KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
] This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
] 128 new messages!!!
]
] I can only ask...
] IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
] BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!
]
If You Can't Stand the Heat, Stay Out of the Kitchen....

Da Minotaur

From:	Fahnuir <FAHNUIR@******.BITNET>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 18:15:11 PRT

Message no. 9 ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>ok.... I can see a person getting upset, but I jujst subscribed to tyhis
>mailer, and LOVE iT!!!! I don;t care that every morning I have almost 100
>messages..( I also subsribe to AD&D-L) but I still love it...I say...
>DEAL WITH IT!!!! I am.

I received 300 mails in one day(!!!!), and i'm not complaining.
If i subscribed all the lists where i am subscribed, it was because i wanted.
No one pointed a gun to my head and said " SUBSCRIBE THAT LIST OR I'LL BLOW YO
UR &*%^)$# BRAINS!!!".
I just also say that i was not under the influence of any kind of drugs, chips
or alchool, and i'm not also someone with mental disorders (well...maybe some.
..) or senile.
Fahnuir

In your room, i feel you and i just can't get enough...
Judas

From:	"TK Computer Consultations." <JEK5313@*****.TAMU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Thu, 4 Nov 1993 15:41:26 -0600

Message no. 10 Jim McPherson:
]PS: In the next 30 seconds, all messages sent to me (note that every single
]one of the 133++ is shadowrn) will self-destruct. If there was anything
]profoundly interesting in there, please summarize and resubmit at a later date.

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I have no intention of ever
"summariz[ing] and resubmit[ting] at a later date" for ANY ONE. Check the
logs, bucko, if you want to find out what you deleted out of hand. It's what
the rest of us do, and you're no different.

--Flare <NULLSIG COURTESY OF DOOM>

Dark Thought Publications & Doom Technologies, Inc.
>>> Working on solutions best left in the dark.

From:	"J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:43:04 -0500

Message no. 11 On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, steven mancini wrote:

> To quote Short Fuse:
> ]
> ] Yo. People.
> ] KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
> ] This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
> ] 128 new messages!!!
> ]
> ] I can only ask...
> ] IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
> ] BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!
> ]
> If You Can't Stand the Heat, Stay Out of the Kitchen....
>
> Da Minotaur

His point, and mine, is that if you don't have something useful to say...

SHUT THE HELL UP!

From:	Mark Imbriaco <mai@**.ODU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!!
Date:	Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:50:41 -0500

Message no. 12 On Fri, 5 Nov 1993, J.D. Falk wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Nov 1993, steven mancini wrote:
>
> > To quote Short Fuse:
> > ]
> > ] Yo. People.
> > ] KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
> > ] This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
> > ] 128 new messages!!!
> > ]
> > ] I can only ask...
> > ] IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY ACCOUNT
> > ] BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!
> > ]
> > If You Can't Stand the Heat, Stay Out of the Kitchen....
> >
> > Da Minotaur
>
> His point, and mine, is that if you don't have something useful to say...
>
> SHUT THE HELL UP!

If you have such a problem with the messages, why did you respond in the list?
Either drop the list or stop complaining.. no one else on the list other than
you two seem to have a problem with the way the list is going. If you don't
like the quantity of messages, switch to digest, or drop the list.. Just don't
complain and make it bad for the rest of us who enjoy reading the list.

Mark

From:	George Campbell <daishi@*******.EECS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Ummm... 'scuse me??!!!! (fwd)
Date:	Mon, 8 Nov 1993 04:52:31 CST

Message no. 13 > > > To quote Short Fuse:
> > > ]
> > > ] Yo. People.
> > > ] KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
> > > ] This is the first time I've logged in in ~24 hours, and what do I see?
> > > ] 128 new messages!!!
> > > ]
> > > ] I can only ask...
> > > ] IS ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO RISK SPAMMING MY
ACCOUNT
> > > ] BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG IN FOR 24 HOURS?? CHILL!!!!!!!
> > > ]
> > > If You Can't Stand the Heat, Stay Out of the Kitchen....
> > >
> > > Da Minotaur
> >
> > His point, and mine, is that if you don't have something useful to say...
> >
> > SHUT THE HELL UP!
>
Well geez over the weekend I ended up with 481 messages in my mailbox from my
4 (or is it 5 ) mailing lists i'm subscribed to. My only complaint is they're
all jumbled together and i haven't got my filter working yet *sigh*.
(if there's any advice about these out there I'd love to hear it)
So please chill (and stop using caps, it hurts my eyes at 4 in the morning :-)

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