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Message no. 1
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Unconcious targets, ghosts, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:27:43 +1000
> >[projecting magician who's body died and who's now a ghost]
>
> >> Err, just what could he do to a (mundane) street sam?
> >Send in his ally. Let the Ally waste the Sam. When the Ally is about to loose,
> >blast a level 8 Hellblast through him.
> >THAT he could do to a (mundane) Street Sam.
>
> I sppse he could, but that's a lot of "IF"'s!
>

OR...Conjure a watcher, get it to manifest physically and cast an Acid Bomb
through the watcher. That is assuming that watchers *can* manifest. I'd
rather not use a larger spirit like that (we role-play our spirits), but I
guess if I was a ghost I'd be pretty pissed off and might do it.

The spell would have to be a manipulation spell, because of not being
able to affect mundanes, etc.

Come to think of it, that has to be the best argument i've ever heard for
watchers not being able to manifest.... too easy to kill mundanes from
astral space.

PS.. what happens to a ghost if he's got no body to absorb the drain he
takes from casting spells?? The energy would shred him.

Bleach.
(and no; I NEVER shut up)
Message no. 2
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Unconcious targets, ghosts, etc.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 21:15:55 +0000
On 16 Oct 96 at 2:27, Marty wrote:
[snip]
> > I sppse he could, but that's a lot of "IF"'s!
You bet some people might pray (my Ally included) nooene ever kills my meatbod
while I am away... :-)

> OR...Conjure a watcher, get it to manifest physically and cast an Acid Bomb
> through the watcher. That is assuming that watchers *can* manifest. I'd
> rather not use a larger spirit like that (we role-play our spirits), but I
> guess if I was a ghost I'd be pretty pissed off and might do it.
Uh-oh. Double no-no. a) Watcher cannot manifest. No discussion, get your
Grimoire out. b) You can't summon while astrally projecting.

[snip]
> PS.. what happens to a ghost if he's got no body to absorb the drain he
> takes from casting spells?? The energy would shred him.
SRII, p.148: ''When a magician casts spells in astral space, Drain always
causes Physical damage, regardless of the spell's Force rating.'' When Drain
did (D) damage finally, the magician at least woun't have to worry about his
Essence running out... nothing to loose, remember?
Message no. 3
From: Guardian <s777317@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Unconcious targets, ghosts, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:31:35 +1000
<snip>

> PS.. what happens to a ghost if he's got no body to absorb the drain he
> takes from casting spells?? The energy would shred him.

*horrified look* or even worse the drain dissipates or is grounded where
the body is, cos the body can't resist anymore! Hmmm... wouldn't want to
hang around THAT particular place long...

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Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Unconcious targets, ghosts, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:37:43 +0100
Marty said on 2:27/16 Oct 96...

> OR...Conjure a watcher, get it to manifest physically and cast an Acid Bomb
> through the watcher. That is assuming that watchers *can* manifest. I'd
> rather not use a larger spirit like that (we role-play our spirits), but I
> guess if I was a ghost I'd be pretty pissed off and might do it.

As far as I'm concerned, watchers cannot manifest physically. They can
only make themselves visible on the physical plane, but do not actually
bridge the "gap" between the astral and physical planes. As a result, you
can't ground through them.

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Message no. 5
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Unconcious targets, ghosts, etc.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:38:10 -0700
> Come to think of it, that has to be the best argument i've ever heard for
> watchers not being able to manifest.... too easy to kill mundanes from
> astral space.

Exactly. I'd rule watchers have no true physical component to form the
bridge from astral space.

> PS.. what happens to a ghost if he's got no body to absorb the drain he
> takes from casting spells?? The energy would shred him.

I'd say with no physical body to tie to, he can't channel the energy to do
things such as conjure or spell cast. Or maybe let him do it but raise the
level of the drain category, with all drain being physical it's probably
going to destroy him. I've never had to deal with it.

> Bleach.
> (and no; I NEVER shut up)

Didn't think so. ;o)

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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