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Message no. 1
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Vampires and body heat?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:01:37 +0100
Easy question, possibly long discussion: do SR vampires give off
body heat? And is there an official source to back up the answer?

My own idea is that they would, given that they move around, and
movement requires energy which eventually gets turned into waste
heat -- but I'm sure other answers are also possible :)

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Message no. 2
From: allen.versfeld@*****.com (Allen Versfeld)
Subject: Vampires and body heat?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:26:53 +0200
On 1/12/07, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> Easy question, possibly long discussion: do SR vampires give off
> body heat? And is there an official source to back up the answer?
>
> My own idea is that they would, given that they move around, and
> movement requires energy which eventually gets turned into waste
> heat -- but I'm sure other answers are also possible :)
>

Without referring back to the books, I seem to recall that SR vampires
are not undead - their bodies are still alive, and still metabolise.
Similarly, so does the magical virus responsible for the condition.
Therefore, they would emit heat.
Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Vampires and body heat?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:43:11 +0100
According to Allen Versfeld, on 12-1-07 11:26 the word on the street was...

> Without referring back to the books, I seem to recall that SR vampires
> are not undead - their bodies are still alive

Yes, I think that's where the confusion may be coming from (I didn't ask
the question for myself, BTW). Vampires are the result of a virus, but
is it mentioned anywhere whether this virus actually kills its victims,
and then "ressurrects" them as vampires, or if they get transformed by
the virus but remain alive?

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Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Van e-mail bakt men cyberbrood.
-> Former NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 4
From: raymacey@*****.com (Ray Macey)
Subject: Vampires and body heat?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:17:27 +1000
On 1/12/07, Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:
> Yes, I think that's where the confusion may be coming from (I didn't ask
> the question for myself, BTW). Vampires are the result of a virus, but
> is it mentioned anywhere whether this virus actually kills its victims,
> and then "ressurrects" them as vampires, or if they get transformed by
> the virus but remain alive?

Killing the host would leave them braindead, so that would mean that
vampires are truly undead, something that Shadowrun lacks, or the
virus itself instills sentience as well as halts decay. I think it's
safe to say that it doesn't kill its victim

Ray
Message no. 5
From: korishinzo@*****.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Vampires and body heat?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:48:19 -0800 (PST)
> > Without referring back to the books, I seem to recall that SR
> > vampires are not undead - their bodies are still alive

> Yes, I think that's where the confusion may be coming from (I
> didn't ask
> the question for myself, BTW). Vampires are the result of a virus,
> but
> is it mentioned anywhere whether this virus actually kills its
> victims,
> and then "ressurrects" them as vampires, or if they get transformed
> by
> the virus but remain alive?

The discussion of HMHVV in the SR2 main book and paranormal critters
may not state explicity, but certainly implies strongly, that the
virus forces various irreversible metabolic mutations on the victim
but leaves them alive. For the most part, the Shadowrun creators
seem to have worked very hard to leave "undead" out of the game.

I would rule that the vampire does exude body heat, though it may be
less than that of an uninfected person. The vampire's metabolism
runs much differently now, running on a fraction of the calories and
relying heavily on mana-based reactions (the Essence
loss/replenishment cycle). Conversely, I would rule that vampires
are more obvious in the astral, due to this same mana-heavy
"metabolism".

If you need actual page numbers from those SR2 books, I'll find them
when I get home from work. I'll even flip through SR1, for the sake
of completeness. :)

======Korishinzo
--always good to dust off the bottom shelves of SR books



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