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Message no. 1
From: Gossamer <kajohnson@*******.TEC.WI.US>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:51:07 -0500
> >Interesting possibilities for killing some nasty enemies,
> >if you're a vampire. Turn to mist form, make sure one of
> >your enemies breaths part of you in, and turn to physical
> >form again. You'll need a shower of course, but it's also
> >hard to find fingerprints on the corpse :)
>
> Or you have problem if he was cybered with any plating or
> something like that :))) anyway it will be a very traumatic
> to "explode" someone from inside with yourself :)

Ok, here it goes, this has been bugging me since this
engulf thing started...

So, the vampire goes to mist form and engulfs Joe Samurai.
Joe enthales Terrence's (the vampire) mist stuff...

But Joe has a gas filtration system cybered into him.

What happens to Terrence? Does he get stuck? Captured?
What happens if Joe foricbly inhales all of Terrence's mist-self
and Joe's Bod+Dermal Plate are much higher than Terrence's?
If Terrence turns solid, is he crushed? What happens to Joe?
If he only took a Serious wound, that would be an awesome
way to end a vampire story...

Scene: (at the bar, afterwards...)
"...and so... I ATE him!! AHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!!!!!)



Ok, there I said it. I'm not ashamed.

Gossamer
Message no. 2
From: Marcin Serkies <yasiu@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 18:00:34 +0200
>Ok, here it goes, this has been bugging me since this
>engulf thing started...
>So, the vampire goes to mist form and engulfs Joe Samurai.
>Joe enthales Terrence's (the vampire) mist stuff...
>But Joe has a gas filtration system cybered into him.
>What happens to Terrence? Does he get stuck? Captured?
>What happens if Joe foricbly inhales all of Terrence's mist-self
>and Joe's Bod+Dermal Plate are much higher than Terrence's?
>If Terrence turns solid, is he crushed? What happens to Joe?
>If he only took a Serious wound, that would be an awesome
>way to end a vampire story...

Heh cool alternative for normal vampire killing. Just taking deep breaths to
catch him inside... don`t need any silver... Or maybe use vacuum cleaner
with panzer plating ???? :))

c-ya

yasiu
Message no. 3
From: Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 17:16:23 -0700
| Ok, here it goes, this has been bugging me since this
| engulf thing started...
|
| So, the vampire goes to mist form and engulfs Joe Samurai.
| Joe enthales Terrence's (the vampire) mist stuff...
|
| But Joe has a gas filtration system cybered into him.
|
| What happens to Terrence? Does he get stuck? Captured?
| What happens if Joe foricbly inhales all of Terrence's mist-self
| and Joe's Bod+Dermal Plate are much higher than Terrence's?
| If Terrence turns solid, is he crushed? What happens to Joe?
| If he only took a Serious wound, that would be an awesome
| way to end a vampire story...

Ya know we've seen alot of stuff come and go on this list...everything from
flamethrowers launching carp at Bull from under Gurth's stairs to cybered
*oo*chucks rampaging through downtown Tokyo, but never in all my days did I
think that I would see a thread talking about sucking in Vampires and
crushing them....without discussing Bone Lacing!!!!!! Now if it was
titanium bonelacing would it just sort of "scwooosh" out the insides of the
victim, and then trap the Vampire in the shell of the poor sammies body?
Or would the vampire perish due to lack of oxygen? Could you load a
vampire into a toxin exhaler? Now THAT would be cool. :o

| Scene: (at the bar, afterwards...)
| "...and so... I ATE him!! AHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!!!!!)

...and then the next morning I spit him out in the sunlight and watched him
shrivel!!!!!!!

<Daffy Duck>

woohoowoohoowoohoowoohoo

</Daffy Duck>

| Ok, there I said it. I'm not ashamed.

<Yoda>

You will be...yuo wiiiilllll beee

</Yoda>

-Caric-the-Gossamer-started-it-shaman

"I was NAKED!!!!!!!!!!!"
-Blackjack our Racoon Shaman when asked why he ran away from one
particular fight."
Message no. 4
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 17:48:57 PDT
>*oo*chucks

AHHHH! Not the chuckers of wood! Ahhhh!
Message no. 5
From: Charles D Neely <cdneely@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 20:46:15 EDT
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997 17:16:23 -0700 Caric <caric@********.COM> writes:
>| Ok, here it goes, this has been bugging me since this
>| engulf thing started...

>
>Ya know we've seen alot of stuff come and go on this list...everything
>from
>flamethrowers launching carp at Bull from under Gurth's stairs to
>cybered
>*oo*chucks rampaging through downtown Tokyo, but never in all my days
>did I
>think that I would see a thread talking about sucking in Vampires and
>crushing them....without discussing Bone Lacing!!!!!! Now if it was
>titanium bonelacing would it just sort of "scwooosh" out the insides
>of the
>victim, and then trap the Vampire in the shell of the poor sammies
>body?
>Or would the vampire perish due to lack of oxygen? Could you load a
>vampire into a toxin exhaler? Now THAT would be cool. :o

I'm not sure but I think it would depend on what the mist is made of.
Gases of just about anykind will be absorbed by the body. The end result
is the poisoning of the system of the victim.
By the same reasoning the vampire would lose whatever part of the body
that composed the mist that was absorbed. We had the same problem in a
D&D game once. Both died it was like phasing into a solid object.

>
>| Scene: (at the bar, afterwards...)
>| "...and so... I ATE him!! AHAHAHAAAHAHAHA!!!!!!)
>
>...and then the next morning I spit him out in the sunlight and
>watched him
>shrivel!!!!!!!

Talk about a case of food poisoning though. OH MY ACHING TUMMY.
DAVID NEELY
Message no. 6
From: William Monroe Ashe <wma6617@****.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 19:46:40 -0500
Well instead of inhaling, there's always your handy dandy vacuum cleaner.


Since were getting all Loony around here.


Bill
Message no. 7
From: Duncan McNeill-Burton <Dreadnaut1@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 00:22:37 -0400
In a message dated 97-06-04 00:17:01 EDT, you write:

> Well instead of inhaling, there's always your handy dandy vacuum cleaner.
>
>
> Since were getting all Loony around here.
>

Well, that just sucked...

< ducks to avoid incoming carp >

Later-

Duncan
Message no. 8
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 00:30:35 -0400
> Ya know we've seen alot of stuff come and go on this list...everything
from
> flamethrowers launching carp at Bull from under Gurth's stairs to cybered
> *oo*chucks rampaging through downtown Tokyo, but never in all my days did
I
> think that I would see a thread talking about sucking in Vampires and
> crushing them....without discussing Bone Lacing!!!!!!

I can't beleive this thread has gone this far without someone mentioning
Shao Kahn from Mortal Kombat.
That's his classic finishing move from MK2!

However, IIRC the vampire's form is unaffected by strong winds, so it sure
isn't gonna be bothered by some sammy's breath.
Ergo - no sucking the vamps!

Also, if the vamp chose to enter a person's body, he would likely, rapidly
run out of oxygen.
IMO in mist form, with no lungs, the vampire is constantly absorbing O2
from the air around him.
Inside the lungs the air is rapidly depleted by both parties, host and
vampire.
Now then according to the Critters section, lack of oxy=dormancy for a
vampire.

Now we just have to decide what happens to a vampire when he enters
dormancy.
Does he expand, or simply remain in mist form until he is "coughed up", or
his time in mist form is up and he forcibly expands.

I rule that both vampire and host die. Period.
Esp. if they were PC's. Anone stupid enough to try this deserves to have
their innards explode! ;-)

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://www.ncweb.com/users/bluewizard
"I'm about to get my swerve on!"
Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:51:58 +0100
|
|>*oo*chucks
|
|AHHHH! Not the chuckers of wood! Ahhhh!
|

Well... As long as they have a good aim, and the wood's pointed at one end,
they MIGHT even come in useful....
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 10:08:20 +0100
Marcin Serkies said on 18:00/ 3 Jun 95...

> Heh cool alternative for normal vampire killing. Just taking deep breaths to
> catch him inside... don`t need any silver...

I'll let you in on some inside info: silver doesn't hurt an SR vampire any
more than it will a human. I learned this the hard way when I was a player
once, and we tried to kill the vampire by stabbing him with a silver
table knife. I, of course, was a dwarf with a silver allergy, so _I_ had
to be more careful with the knife than the vampire...

--
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People always talk about long-distance phonecalls as if they had to walk
all the way.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 11
From: Marcin Serkies <yasiu@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:44:29 +0200
At 10:08 AM 6/4/97 +0100, you wrote:

>I'll let you in on some inside info: silver doesn't hurt an SR vampire any
>more than it will a human. I learned this the hard way when I was a player
>once, and we tried to kill the vampire by stabbing him with a silver
>table knife. I, of course, was a dwarf with a silver allergy, so _I_ had
>to be more careful with the knife than the vampire...

Hehe... but you still can use vacuum cleaner. BTW: what is the best method
to kill vampire in SR ??? i don`t know much about them but i`m curious
because i`ve meet vampire with my only SR character but she (vampire) was
helpfull...

c-ya

yasiu
Message no. 12
From: Rune Fostervoll <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 14:24:16 +0000
Marcin wrote:
> Hehe... but you still can use vacuum cleaner. BTW: what is the best method
> to kill vampire in SR ??? i don`t know much about them but i`m curious
> because i`ve meet vampire with my only SR character but she (vampire) was
> helpfull...

Well... an assault cannon is nice, with a artificial sunlight
projector to keep the vampire uncomfy. (IIRC it's stated that some
types of artificial light affects those allergic to sunlight.).

Secondly, there appears to be two schools of 'vampires' - one prefers
the Anne Rice/WoD vampires, while the other prefers the 'Buffy'
version. (Or 'From dusk to Dawn') - that is, vampires are more or
less mindless, bloodthirsty killers. From a role playing perspective,
the first kind is far more interesting. (You can meet a helpful one,
as you did, for instance.).

The first time I introduced a vampire in SR, the party was hired to
take a large box from France to Seattle. You *BET* there was
complications!

--
Rune Fostervoll

"But the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we no not of."
Message no. 13
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 10:28:04 -0400
In a message dated 97-06-04 06:57:29 EDT, you write:

<< Hehe... but you still can use vacuum cleaner. BTW: what is the best method
to kill vampire in SR ??? i don`t know much about them but i`m curious
because i`ve meet vampire with my only SR character but she (vampire) was
helpfull...
>>

I think it would depend on how heavy and dispearsed the mist was. From my
experience mist doesn't vaccume well.

For Vampire hunting I typically uses exploisive or APDS rounds and generally
call a shot to the head.

-Bandit

"At my lemonade stand I used to give the first glass away free and charge
five dollars for the second glass. The refill contained the antidote."
Message no. 14
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 17:03:10 +0100
|Well, that just sucked...
|
|< ducks to avoid incoming carp >

I'm afraid ducking won't work.....

+++++Engage heat seaking missile with carp warhead....

*****TAGETTING . . . . .
*****TARGET LOCATED AND LOCKED. . . . .
*****FIRING

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THW


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______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:21:09 +0100
Rune Fostervoll said on 14:24/ 4 Jun 97...

> Well... an assault cannon is nice, with a artificial sunlight
> projector to keep the vampire uncomfy. (IIRC it's stated that some
> types of artificial light affects those allergic to sunlight.).

X-rays, not artificial sunlight. This probably has to do, in part, with it
being a magical allergy and artificial light being, well, artificial,
since there is no difference AFAIK between a photon coming from the sun
and one coming from a light bulb... This poses to question, do "sunlight"
bulbs (lightbulbs whose color is the same as of sunlight, they were
hideously expensive last time I looked) give the vampire an allergic
reaction?

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Well that's allright now, you don't listen to me anyway.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 16
From: Falin <dark-claw@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:49:24 -0400
Rune Fostervoll said on 14:24/ 4 Jun 97...

> Well... an assault cannon is nice, with a artificial sunlight
> projector to keep the vampire uncomfy. (IIRC it's stated that
> some types of artificial light affects those allergic to
sunlight.).


I read it somewhere that the origin for the vampire myth has a
possible explination in medical terms. There is a genetic disease
that causes the person inflicted to display some of the commonly
believed traits. One of the things mentioned is that the disease
caused the inflicted to have a greater reaction to Ultra-violet
radiation. This could be the the part of light that effects vamps.
Message no. 17
From: Marcin Serkies <yasiu@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:45:32 +0200
At 10:28 AM 6/4/97 -0400, you wrote:

>For Vampire hunting I typically uses exploisive or APDS rounds and generally
>call a shot to the head.

hehe - brutal and direct way. And do you need to burn body after that to
destroy vampire completely ???

c-ya

yasiu
Message no. 18
From: Marcin Serkies <yasiu@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampires in Mist form [getting wierd]
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:45:19 +0200
At 02:24 PM 6/4/97 +0000, you wrote:

>Well... an assault cannon is nice, with a artificial sunlight
>projector to keep the vampire uncomfy. (IIRC it's stated that some
>types of artificial light affects those allergic to sunlight.).

Hmm it`s interesting idea... i`ve never thought that way :)

>Secondly, there appears to be two schools of 'vampires' - one prefers
>the Anne Rice/WoD vampires, while the other prefers the 'Buffy'
>version. (Or 'From dusk to Dawn') - that is, vampires are more or
>less mindless, bloodthirsty killers. From a role playing perspective,
>the first kind is far more interesting. (You can meet a helpful one,
>as you did, for instance.).

Personally i prefer first one for playing but second type is good for some
killing by players... I`ve GMed cool game where players were bandits who
escaped from USA and had meeting in Titty Twister bar... That was before
they saw "From dusk till Dawn". And it was very cool...

>The first time I introduced a vampire in SR, the party was hired to
>take a large box from France to Seattle. You *BET* there was
>complications!

Hehe i`ve travelled that way in Vampire/Masquerade :))) in Box...

c-ya

yasiu

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