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Message no. 1
From: Sandman <SANDSJO2@******.JUNIATA.EDU>
Subject: Various bits and pieces...
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:32:48 -0400
Oh, so much to say; I'll be nice and have it in all one post.

Doom being shot:

> My fears were not--thank God--borne out by the course that events
>adopted. The ganger, due to his +3 modifier, only succeeded in barely
>registering a hit upon my person, which was subseqently absorbed by my armor
>(ShadowRun I). It was, however, the Mage, with a particular sense of
>mischieviousness who suggested to the Game Master to roll a "luck di". The
>result was a 1, the mage stating with glee that, "Hey, Doom, that means it
>ricocheted off of one of your medals!"

Ohhh, "luck di"... Did the great Doom actually have a typo?!? ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist... :)
Actually, on this string... Someone said something about the deathability
of various types and ways to kill and stuff... My GM does that when the
NPCs would know it. eg. In our game Wednesday, the troll merc type took a
six round burst from an assault rifle to the head. (No helmet, of course.)
Needless to say, he was out for a short bit. The mage rolled badly on his
treat spell--one success, for one box healed in the full base time.
My character (the other merc/fighter type) wandered over when he was done
and used my medkit and First Aid on the troll, who was now back over the
lip of death (nine boxes) and rolled 7 dice. All of them succeeded, so
the GM said, "Heck, for that you can have an extra bonus success!"
In short, the base time of healing from the treatment was twenty days.
My successes dropped it to three hours and fourty-five minutes.
The mage was rather perturbed that I showed him up...

Concrete Dream:
Actually, I thought this was a takeoff on the group Tangerine Dream.
Of course, we could all be wrong and it's just coincedence that they
made up a name so close to real groups.

SR=Cyberpunk/Fantasy:
I would definitely say Cyberpunk for SR. CP modded heavily, for
sure. But still Cyberpunk.

Gender Benders:
Well, the only female character I can recall playing (as a player)
off hand would have to be Karyyn. She was a human dual-class druid/
illusionist, fourteenth level in each (AD&D first edition). One
occasion stands out for recollection. One player had a barbarian
who got annoyed at my repeated use of Transmute Rock to Mud in many
various situations. So when I cast the spell at one point, his
response was to have his character try to rape mine. I will warn
all at this point not to try this often; it's not fun for the
barbarian. The barbarian removed his lower garments (I forget what
exactly he was wearing) and proceeded to try to assault Karyyn. She
decided to tame his emotions, and used her druidic abilities to
shapechange into a wolverine... I'll let the men's imaginations take
it from there. But I like to think I played Karyyn somewhat well,
as it was the first time I had tried. I feel better about male
characters, and find it personally easier to play them. I'm sure
there are men who play female characters better than male. The
reverse of course is probably true for you ladies on the list.

Gravity Wells:
Could someone send out a short definition of this term? I've seen
it used, and am not perfectly certain of its meaning.

The Letter:
All I can say is, "What a To: list!"

Enough for now. Die young in poverty. Sandman
Message no. 2
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Various bits and pieces...
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:51:17 GMT
>Ohhh, "luck di"... Did the great Doom actually have a typo?!? ;)
> Sorry, couldn't resist... :)

As other listmembers will attest, it is not the first and will likely not
be the last typographical error made by Doctor Doom or others on this list.
Such a minor mistake is easily overlooked when balanced against the fluid
prose of many of the good Doktor's other comments, and is hardly so
egregrious as to warrant subsequent commentary thereupon.

Indeed, the typographical error is more indicative of the effort expended
in articulating one's words, rather than the intelligence or worth of
the writer or his comments. This is not to say that Herr Doom was lazy; but
given the rather informal nature of this list, I doubt that anyone was truly
upset at the mistake. Furthermore, there are a number of others, not only
on this list but on others as well, who fare so well poorly at expressing
their sentiments that they truly do require correction, lest they be
misinterpreted as idiots or worse.

To close, forget not the technical limitations of this medium, as well as
the all-too-common culpability of human error. For some, the vagaries of
E-mail, the editor, replying, extracting, and other functions are still
mysteries. Mistakes are still common I myself accidentally sent an
incomplete message yesterday for I forgot I as in the Mail Editor, not the
regular editor; I exited to ansewer the virtual phone, only to discover to
my chagrin that my message was promptly sent without being completed. I
should also note that my reply/extract function does not allow cancellation.

Doom made a typo; big deal.
And if you're a little unsure, this isn't a serious flame. Don't sweat it. :)
*****
>shapechange into a wolverine... I'll let the men's imaginations take
>it from there. But I like to think I played Karyyn somewhat well,

I am certain most of the young lades in our group can picture the scene as well.
:)

Gravity Wells:
> Could someone send out a short definition of this term? I've seen
>it used, and am not perfectly certain of its meaning.

I am not a physicist. The following comes from playing Sci-Fi games:

A Gravity Well is a place where gravity is a force to be reckoned with.
In many games and books, the entire solar system is a gravity well; the gravity
of the sun affects things like Jump drives/Warp engines etc.


J Roberson
Message no. 3
From: "GCS/MU d? -P+ c++ l u-(+) e+(++) m(+)(*)@ s/+ n-(---) h f+@ w+
Subject: Re: Various bits and pieces...
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:53:34 -0400
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:} Doom made a typo; big deal.

Yeah. What he said.

--Short Fuse

//\\ Jim McPherson
<< >> JMCPHERS@****.stevens-tech.edu
\\// Randomizing randomness for a better random day.
Message no. 4
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Various bits and pieces...
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 16:20:02 +0930
Sandman asks:
>Gravity Wells:
> Could someone send out a short definition of this term? I've seen
>it used, and am not perfectly certain of its meaning.
>

The classic way of demonstrating a gravity well is this:
Take a rubber sheet, and string it up (horizontally) somewhere. Don't stretch
it too tight though.
Now take something (say, a golf ball), and drop it onto this rubber sheet. What
happens is that the golf ball causes the area where it's dropped to sink down a
bit, right? So you get a depression, termed a well.
Now, near the golf ball, the sides are steep. Further away from the golf ball,
they're not so steep.
Make the golf ball heavier, the well gets deeper, and steeper. Make it bigger
(in volume), and the sides get a bit less steep.

What this shows, btw, is how gravity works. The rubber sheet represents the
Universe, the golf ball a single mass. Add lots of other masses (make the sheet
bigger while you're at it). You get a lot of wells.
These wells are 'gravity wells'. Now, in an example like this, a ship wanting
to leave the Earth (the golf ball, say), would have to climb up the well. When
it's down low, it's difficult. When it's up high, it's a lot easier.

The real situation is more complex, but that's the kind of thing they take to
show beginning physics students.

--
Robert Watkins
bob@******.cs.ntu.edu.au
************ It wouldn't be luck if you could get out of life alive. ***********
Message no. 5
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Various bits and pieces...
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 12:39:02 GMT
>What this shows, btw, is how gravity works. The rubber sheet represents the
>Universe, the golf ball a single mass. Add lots of other masses (make the sheet
>bigger while you're at it). You get a lot of wells.

OK, that's a 2D representation. Any tips on how to imagine the Well of the
Solar System?

J Roberson
Message no. 6
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Various bits and pieces
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 03:21:34 +0930
>>What this shows, btw, is how gravity works. The rubber sheet represents the
>>Universe,the golf ball a single mass. Add lots of other masses (make the sheet
>>bigger while you're at it). You get a lot of wells.
>
>OK, that's a 2D representation. Any tips on how to imagine the Well of the
>Solar System?
>
>J Roberson
>

Well, I said it was a simplification...
But the Solar System is essentially 2D anyway. All significant masses lie in
the eclipitic. But I thought we were really concerning ourselves with Earth to
Moon distances...

-
Robert Watkins
bob@******.cs.ntu.edu.au
************ It wouldn't be luck if you could get out of life alive. ***********

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