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Message no. 1
From: Martin Steffens <chimerae@***.IE>
Subject: Vehicle Design cost question
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:39:36 +0000
I rand into this when I was designing a 2060 version of a landrover
like vehicle. As a finla touch I added a winch that was powerful
enough to pull it out of the mud/water/whatever. Sine it had a body
of four I ended up with a load rating of 2,000 kg for the winch.

The suprise came when I looked at the difference the winch made on
the price, since I intended it only as an extra gadget. But instead
it ended up more than doubling the original price:

design points +-850 + (winch load rating = 2000 * 1) = 2850.

So in this example, plus in the customization specs a winch that can
lift 2,000 kg costs 200,000 Y.

Bit overpriced?! Or should it have been (winch body rating lifting
capability) * 1 points?

Martin Steffens
chimerae@***.ie
Message no. 2
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Vehicle Design cost question
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:29:13 EST
In a message dated 2/3/1999 4:42:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
chimerae@***.IE writes:

>
> Bit overpriced?! Or should it have been (winch body rating lifting
> capability) * 1 points?

The book says what you have, I personally agree with you. Jon, you wondered
what I meant by "loopholes"? Here's one.

-K
Message no. 3
From: "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vehicle Design cost question
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:37:30 -0600
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:39:36 +0000 Martin Steffens <chimerae@***.IE>
writes:
>I rand into this when I was designing a 2060 version of a landrover
>like vehicle. As a finla touch I added a winch that was powerful
>enough to pull it out of the mud/water/whatever. Sine it had a body
>of four I ended up with a load rating of 2,000 kg for the winch.
>
>The suprise came when I looked at the difference the winch made on
>the price, since I intended it only as an extra gadget. But instead
>it ended up more than doubling the original price:
>
>design points +-850 + (winch load rating = 2000 * 1) = 2850.
>
>So in this example, plus in the customization specs a winch that can
>lift 2,000 kg costs 200,000 Y.
>
>Bit overpriced?! Or should it have been (winch body rating lifting
>capability) * 1 points?

I did a little bit of web research into winch kits and what I use is
winch cost = load rating/2 (in nuyen). I think that's more realistic.

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
"You, you're like a spoonful of whoopass." --Grace
"A magician is always 'touching' himself" --Page 123, Grimoire (2nd
Edition)

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Message no. 4
From: Martin Steffens <chimerae@***.IE>
Subject: Re: Vehicle Design cost question
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:53:02 +0000
and thus did K in the Shadows speak on 3 Feb 99 at 23:29:

> The book says what you have, I personally agree with you. Jon, you
> wondered what I meant by "loopholes"? Here's one.

One that kinda annoys me:

- Why does the mark up factor count for every design option? I can
imagine that it does for luxury vehicles, but security services
aren't going to fork over 2.5 times the normal money to get a better
sensor system for example. "So mr. car salesman you're saying that
because my vehicle has a weapon mount, my sensor suite is 125K
instead of 50K?" At which point mr car salesman suddenly realized
that apart from having more money than the civil market, security
corps also have a lot of fire power and the licenses to use it...

Karina & Martin Steffens
chimerae@***.ie

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