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Message no. 1
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Vehicles and Spirit Combat
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 02:06:05 EST
In a message dated 97-12-20 01:06:57 EST, you write:

> For argument's sake (and just to be a total bastard about this :) what would
> you consider ramming a spirit with a vehicle to be?
>
> -- Jon
>
IMHO, a vehicle with a rigger in it should be able to do nothing to any other
spirit, however, let's say a mage has a spirit put it's Guard or other such
power onto the same vehicle and then I would say that the vehicle has a chance
(Rigger's Willpower) to damage another spirit, either astrally or physically.

Have a Merry Christmas,

Mike
Message no. 2
From: "Just Me, Glenn" <hypoxic@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Vehicles and Spirit Combat
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:51:48 -0700
AirWisp wrote:

> > For argument's sake (and just to be a total bastard about this :)
> what would
> > you consider ramming a spirit with a vehicle to be?
> >
> > -- Jon
> >
> IMHO, a vehicle with a rigger in it should be able to do nothing to
> any other
> spirit, however, let's say a mage has a spirit put it's Guard or other
> such
> power onto the same vehicle and then I would say that the vehicle has
> a chance
> (Rigger's Willpower) to damage another spirit, either astrally or
> physically.
>
> Mike

If a vehicle with a rigger inside can't harm a spirit, then the same
combo with a spirit's Guard power wouldn't hurt the opposing rammed
spirit with the rigger's willpower. The rigger never changed, so it
should be the spirit's force opposing the rammed spirit, similar to
spirit combat. IMHO, a rigged vehicle with the rigger inside should
count in ramming a spirit. Afterall, it takes GREAT willpower to ram
something in a moving vehicle, not much different than holding a spear
and charging really. If you doubt me, go attempt to drive your car into
a stationary object at high speed. Tell me that doesn't take willpower
to keep from swerving. Of course, a vehicle being rigged remotely has
no willpower behind its force, so it simply wouldn't harm the spirit
being rammed.
Message no. 3
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Vehicles and Spirit Combat
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:24:09 EST
In a message dated 97-12-20 11:56:09 EST, you write:

> If a vehicle with a rigger inside can't harm a spirit, then the same
> combo with a spirit's Guard power wouldn't hurt the opposing rammed
> spirit with the rigger's willpower. The rigger never changed, so it
> should be the spirit's force opposing the rammed spirit, similar to
> spirit combat. IMHO, a rigged vehicle with the rigger inside should
> count in ramming a spirit. Afterall, it takes GREAT willpower to ram
> something in a moving vehicle, not much different than holding a spear
> and charging really. If you doubt me, go attempt to drive your car into
> a stationary object at high speed. Tell me that doesn't take willpower
> to keep from swerving. Of course, a vehicle being rigged remotely has
> no willpower behind its force, so it simply wouldn't harm the spirit
> being rammed.
>
Thanks for the extra information and I like what you are saying.

Have a Merry Christmas,

Mike

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