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Message no. 1
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Vehiclesry
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 16:24:58 +0930
> > > Also about stadard movement, humans move at quicknesx3 when running, is
this for
> > > one whole round, or do they run this each complex action??
>
> > You can run once per round, as a complex action, but on any other turns you
> > may have, you can walk for Quickness meters. (This really should be a
> > FAQ.)
>
> Yes, it should, because your answer is wrong.

Wanna bet... :) (Okay, about the complex action bit, yeah... I was thinking
of when you use the Running skill. That's a Complex Action. :) )

> As I said before,
> movement is a modifier, not an action. Shadowrun p. 83 (Movement)
> "Movement in no way changes the availability of Free, Simple, or Complex
> Actions."

Yah... Availability. Just cause I'm running, I don't lose any of my
rightful actions.

> It is unclear whether the writers intended "Turn" or Phase"
when
> describing running or walking, but it would make more sense if it were
> "Turn." Someone with Wired Reflexes 3 shouldn't run any faster than
> someone without wires. Reflexes and out-and-out running speed have
> little to do with each other.

Page 83, again... "Characters who have multiple Actions may run only in one
of those Combat Phases, but it does not matter which."

Sounds like they meant Phase, ya know. :)

From the story at the start
"He was closer to the girl'n I was. I could have gotten to her first, if
I'd cut in the wires that boost my reflexes. but movin' thorugh a downtown
crowd at 70 kph isn't the smart thing to do when you want to avoid undue
attention from Lone Star."

Sounds like it does have a little bit... remember, reflexes enhancements
have more to do than just boost reaction time. Reaction time is largely the
time it takes for your brain to decide what to do, then tell your body what
to do. The enhancement also has to speed up the body in doing that. Now, if
it can speed up my arm moving into my jacket, whipping out my pistol,
bringing it on line with the target and blowing his fragging head off, why
can't it speed up how fast my legs can move?

> In the end, just do what you want to. It's what the rest of us do.

Too true...

> Marc


--
Robert Watkins bob@**.ntu.edu.au
Real Programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers
are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night.
Message no. 2
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vehiclesry
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 19:11:58 -0400
On Sat, 11 Feb 1995, Robert Watkins wrote:

> >From the story at the start
> "He was closer to the girl'n I was. I could have gotten to her first, if
> I'd cut in the wires that boost my reflexes. but movin' thorugh a downtown
> crowd at 70 kph isn't the smart thing to do when you want to avoid undue
> attention from Lone Star."
>
> Sounds like it does have a little bit... remember, reflexes enhancements
> have more to do than just boost reaction time. Reaction time is largely the
> time it takes for your brain to decide what to do, then tell your body what
> to do. The enhancement also has to speed up the body in doing that. Now, if
> it can speed up my arm moving into my jacket, whipping out my pistol,
> bringing it on line with the target and blowing his fragging head off, why
> can't it speed up how fast my legs can move?

Reactions are small movements, not large ones. By and large, it's
not reactions that make people faster runners. It's muscle strength. So
while your wired reflexes beat me starting out of the blocks, my muscle
aug (which raises Quickness, the attribute from which running speed is
determined) will catch up to you real quick.
Also, I'd take the story with a grain of salt. It's kinda like
taking all of the (contradictory) examples at face value...

> > In the end, just do what you want to. It's what the rest of us do.

> Too true...

Which is exactly why I'll drop this thread here...


Marc

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