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Message no. 1
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vehicle stuff...
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:22:54 -0400
On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Gurth wrote:

> Beats me... CF never made any real sense, but because of the letters I'd say
> it stands for Cubic Feet, or about 30 x 30 x 30 cm. That makes that most
> cars have really small trunks, BTW...

Uhhh, no. CF stands for "Cargo Factor" and is abstract term used to
describe how much space or weight a car can carry or how extensively it
can be modified withou being totally obvious. It has no hard and set
physical dimensions, though a rough weight is given as a guideline
(either 25 or 50 kilograms, I'm not sure which).

Marc
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Vehicle stuff...
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:22:55 +0200
> Uhhh, no. CF stands for "Cargo Factor" and is abstract term used to
>describe how much space or weight a car can carry or how extensively it
>can be modified withou being totally obvious. It has no hard and set
>physical dimensions, though a rough weight is given as a guideline
>(either 25 or 50 kilograms, I'm not sure which).

I was aware of that, but like most other vehicle-related things I find it a
bit too abstract to be of any real use :( It's 25 kg per CF, though...

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Message no. 3
From: Eve Forward <lutra@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vehicle stuff...
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:33:28 -0700
>>I was aware of that, but like most other vehicle-related things I find it a
bit too abstract to be of any real use :( It's 25 kg per CF, though...
<<

True... a little too unspecific. We worked out once that there were enough
CF's in one character's Blitzen to enable us to tuck one of the other
characters into his "storage space"; and the character in question was a
human, too. Kind of a cramped ride, though...

-E
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Vehicle stuff...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:07:27 +0200
>True... a little too unspecific. We worked out once that there were enough
>CF's in one character's Blitzen to enable us to tuck one of the other
>characters into his "storage space"; and the character in question was a
>human, too. Kind of a cramped ride, though...

You should start smuggling people instead of running the shadows :)

Well, Steve has been awfully quiet lately, but I think we'll still go ahead
with that riggers book (right?), and I can say I'm _not_ in favor of
chucking CF out of the vehicle stats -- we'd have to re-write too much in
that case. It's something I do feel FASA should have done better, though...

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Message no. 5
From: Andre' Selmer <031SEA@******.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject: Re: Vehicle stuff...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:15:34 +0200
:->
:->Well, Steve has been awfully quiet lately, but I think we'll still go ahead
:->with that riggers book (right?), and I can say I'm _not_ in favor of
:->chucking CF out of the vehicle stats -- we'd have to re-write too much in
:->that case. It's something I do feel FASA should have done better, though...

The CF should remain, but I (personally) think that is should be
based on the body of the vehical, its size (which not nessarily its
body) and the amount of cargo it can carry.

Also appricited would be the load capacities of various engines,
possibly ratioed gearboxs and alternative high octane fuels...

Then there is the gizmos similar to those from the James Bond films
and oh yes alterative engines


Andre'

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