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From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: (Vehicular Nano-Doc)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:06:18 PST
>The problem with this entire argument is that everyone else seems to be
>making these huge, hyperdrastio leaps in reasoning -BEHIND- the Nanite
>Concept. Mike, who got the idea from me here, isn't out to create a
>collective community consciousness. He's out to create a build/repair
system
>for a vehicle and take the now expanded rules even farther out,
finishing the
>badly needed flushing out.

There is NO "hyperdrastic leap" in reasoning.

Given:
A nanite repair system that can:
A) self replicate from stock materials.
B) Make alterations (repairs) to large scale objects composed of
complicated and multiple materials (vehicles).

Result:
You have a nanite technology with few limits on its capability. Self
intellegence not required. "The street finds its own use for things."

Its like saying that pure matter coversion technolgy would be limited
to only synthesizing food, because somebody invented a "food
replicator".

>Guys, look at it for the idea it is, and for once, do not extrapolate
>the idea beyond the idea too far, lest you lose sight of the vision.

Assuming that no alternate use would be found for a powerful
technolgy is SO contrary to the SR world, and the entire grain of
cyberpunk, that it is IMPOSSIBLE to look at an idea like this and not
extrapolate a little bit. "The Vision" then simply does not hold up-
Its lamer than using the clipper chip being as the model for all
encryption.
Originaly, the topic was what the stats for a nanite vehicle repair
system would likely be. My best guess was that such a system could not
existin SR without causing a huge world impact.

Thus, likely stats: Mass, negligable (nanite storage plus small nanite
manufactured computer); cost, free or outrageous (like software);
availablity, nil (in 2057, probably until 3057). Capabilties: equal to
most other contemporary manufacture and medicine, given proper
opporating parameters, which would require collective guidence of
multitudes of independant entities for large scale opperations.
Synthesis of nano scale objects and possible custum molecules not a
problem. Such use might be sufficient for macroscale effects.

Once you had the nainites, they could "repair" another car so that
it had a similar, but smaller, system. And so on, a symbiotic...OOPs,
sorry, I was extrapolating.
Even with ZERO self guiding capability (not intellegence, just
independant activity), "Nano Hackers" would soon... OOPs, more
extrapolation.

I'd actually say the situation of comparing SR nanites to "nanomech"
resembles the comparing the invention of the jaquard loom to the PC.
Both "do the same thing", but there is a universe of differnence, in
both scientific and engeneering progress.
When SR nanites reach a level comparable to ENIAC, I'd say
vehicular nanomech is possible, but comperably rare- other aplications
would be much more useful. Once it hits the streets, it would cause a
revolution that makes any use of the PC look like a chimp with a
thighbone.


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of a psychotic - Einstein

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