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Message no. 1
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:40:29 +0200
Vinicator Minigun.

Please check me where I'm wrong

15 rounds per Complex action.

Gas Venting on each barrel : 4 points
Delux Custom Gyro Mount : 7 points
Shock Pads : 1 point

Total Recoil Compensation : 12 points

Therefore 3 points are uncompensated.
This number is doubled (Heavy Weapon)
Target Numbers are adjusted by +6 for recoil.

Original Damage Code 7S (last time I looked)
Full Auto Damage Code 22D (rock n roll!)

With a Smartlink for single or the suppressing fire rules
for multiple targets in a small area.


BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za>
*Executive Engineer* *FrontLine Games*
Yo soy un disco quebrado
Yo tengo chicle en cerebro
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Message no. 2
From: Josh Munn <barnack@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 04:56:30 EST
>
>Vinicator Minigun.
>
>Please check me where I'm wrong
>
>15 rounds per Complex action.
>
>Gas Venting on each barrel : 4 points
>Delux Custom Gyro Mount : 7 points
>Shock Pads : 1 point
>
>Total Recoil Compensation : 12 points
>
>Therefore 3 points are uncompensated.
>This number is doubled (Heavy Weapon)
>Target Numbers are adjusted by +6 for recoil.
>
>Original Damage Code 7S (last time I looked)
>Full Auto Damage Code 22D (rock n roll!)
>
>With a Smartlink for single or the suppressing fire rules
>for multiple targets in a small area.
>
I believe (although I don't have the rules in front of me) that a
gyro-stabilizer cancels the double recoil modifier for heavy weapons.


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Message no. 3
From: Seraph <seraph4plm@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:26:44 -0800
>Vinicator Minigun.
>
>Please check me where I'm wrong
>
>15 rounds per Complex action.
>
>Gas Venting on each barrel : 4 points
>Delux Custom Gyro Mount : 7 points
>Shock Pads : 1 point
>
>Total Recoil Compensation : 12 points
>
>Therefore 3 points are uncompensated.
>This number is doubled (Heavy Weapon)
>Target Numbers are adjusted by +6 for recoil.
>
>Original Damage Code 7S (last time I looked)
>Full Auto Damage Code 22D (rock n roll!)
>
>With a Smartlink for single or the suppressing fire rules
>for multiple targets in a small area.
>

Dont forget the rules in fields of fire for strength affecting recoil: A
troll will probably cancel all the remaining recoil.
Message no. 4
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:54:14 +0200
-----Original Message-----
From: Seraph <seraph4plm@*********.NET>
To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET <SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: 13 November 1998 01:22
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)


<snip calculations>


>Dont forget the rules in fields of fire for strength affecting
recoil: A
>troll will probably cancel all the remaining recoil.


I was under the impression that the gyro mount and strength based
reductions
to recoil were not cumulative. I may be wrong. The logic behind this
is something
to do with the gyro wanting to do its own thing and strong arms
stopping it from doing
its work by interfering with its movement.

Please correct if I'm wrong, but allowing gyro reductions and strength
based adjustments
seems pretty dangerous.

¥0.02

BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za>
*Executive Engineer* *FrontLine Games*
Yo soy un disco quebrado
Yo tengo chicle en cerebro
sm:)e
Message no. 5
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:19:42 -0700
For the mere cost of a Thaum, Bruce wrote:
/
/ Vinicator Minigun.
/
/ Please check me where I'm wrong
/
/ 15 rounds per Complex action.
/
/ Gas Venting on each barrel : 4 points
/ Delux Custom Gyro Mount : 7 points
/ Shock Pads : 1 point
/
/ Total Recoil Compensation : 12 points
/
/ Therefore 3 points are uncompensated.
/ This number is doubled (Heavy Weapon)
/ Target Numbers are adjusted by +6 for recoil.
/
/ Original Damage Code 7S (last time I looked)
/ Full Auto Damage Code 22D (rock n roll!)
/
/ With a Smartlink for single (...) targets.

That's a -2 to the TN.

Add in the Recoil for Strength rules for FoF. IIRC, for a strength of
7+ you get another three points of recoil compensation.

Customize the minigun for another -1 to the TN.

Get cyber eyes with image magnification.

Now you've got zero recoil, a base TN of 4 at all ranges, and a
perpetual -3 TN modifier.

Yup, things can get ugly, even in Shadowrun. However, combat is the
icing on the cake. That minigun won't help the character find clues,
roleplay, or solve puzzles.

-David B.
--
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Message no. 6
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:43:44 -0500
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At 11:19 AM 11/13/98 -0700, David B. wrote:
>Customize the minigun for another -1 to the TN.

No. Customizing gives you +1 skill dice, not -1 to the TN.

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Message no. 7
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Vindicator Minigun (Recoil calculations)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:58:39 -0700
For the mere cost of a Thaum, Paul Gettle wrote:
/
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/
/ At 11:19 AM 11/13/98 -0700, David B. wrote:
/ >Customize the minigun for another -1 to the TN.
/
/ No. Customizing gives you +1 skill dice, not -1 to the TN.

Whoops, my bad. Sorry bout that, it's been kinda hectic at work today
and my mind slipped.

-David B.
--
"Earn what you have been given."
--
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