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Message no. 1
From: Sommers <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wageslaves (was:Rumours and Media in 2050)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:14:00 -0400
At 01:17 PM 7/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 11:50 AM 7/14/98 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Face it, how many of us are nowadays wage-slaves? And do you think
>>you're not an independed thinker any more? The wage-slave could be
>>highly critical about the activities of her company, but afraid to
>>speak out because she likes her job. Very likely the high casualty
>>rate in the average game of SR amongst corp-personnel is based upon a
>>mistaken idea that runners are morally superior and are wading through
>>hordes of mindless zombies.
>
>Well, look at today. There really is little feeling of loyalty towards the
>companies that people work for. The exceptions are those employers that
>offer all sorts of extras: child care, allowing pets in the office, profit
>sharing, paid gym time, paid retreats/vactions, etc.

That's the problem that comes back to haunt those companies that made huge
layoffs in the 80's and 90's. There was a fair amount of company loyalty
when you knew you had a job if worked hard and well. When the companies
started yanking that away, loyalty went out the window.

Now in the US trhe job market is tight, unemployment is low. So those
companies now need loyalty and don't get it. I think that the average
employment history for someone in the computer field is about 16-18 months.
Then some other company snaps them up, for more money, and the guy doesn't
look back once.

Right now at Ford, contract (as opposed to direct Ford) positions are about
30%. The department I worked in was 70% contract. When I got another job
offer for a company with some better benefits, I was out of there in a
flash. They didn't show me any loyalty, so I returned the favor. And from
what I saw that carried over to a lot of the direct employees.

>There's clearly a certain amount of uncertainty in today's job market.
>Vaulting forward to 205X and all the chaos, most people are going to
>consider themselves lucky to be employed, especially if they are metahuman.
> Sure, while inside the wage slave may be seriously pissed, but if they
>speak up, what happens? In megacorporate 205X, everything from simply
>being fired to being killed.

They still have to watch what they do. Look at what's happening to GM right
now. There are actually only a few thousand employees on strike. But since
everything is so inter-related no, those few have closed down 30 plants and
effectively prevented GM from manufacturing any cars for the last 2 months.
If you piss off the right people, you can do a lot of damage.
>
>That's quite an incentive to keep you mouth shut and just do your job.
>
>Are wage slaves mindless zombies? Hell no. They are just like the
>runners, they are just out to protect themselves and make some ducats. The
>wage slave simply chose and had to opportunity to take the much safer
>route. Most runners could be wage slaves if they so chose. But they don't.

Runners seem to be the ones to want to gum up the works. Slightly off the
topic, but it just came up to me. I've heard quite a few people say that
runners couldn't have that much of an effect on a mutlibillion nuyen
megacorp. But if you're nasty enough you could. What if the group of
runners sabotaged to the point of long term disabling a small factory. Only
employs a few hundred workers, but makes the key component to the
Americar/Predator/Cyber6/whatever.

All of a sudden, for a week to maybe a few months that product doesn't get
made. The company loses 50 million a day. They have to pay 50 million to
build a new factory, or maybe only 10 million to retool another one. Prices
for used versions of the product double. All stuff that's happening now
with GM could happen from Shadowrunners hitting that one plant.

>
>Thanks Martin. I've now got another topic for the Daily Life section of my
>web site.
>
>Erik J.

Sommers
"Thinking of a good gun-fest run for in a few weeks..."
Message no. 2
From: Martin Steffens <chimerae@***.IE>
Subject: Re: Wageslaves (was:Rumours and Media in 2050)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:22:26 +0000
and thus did Sommers speak on 14 Jul 98 at 14:14:

> Now in the US trhe job market is tight, unemployment is low. So those
> companies now need loyalty and don't get it. I think that the average
> employment history for someone in the computer field is about 16-18 months.
> Then some other company snaps them up, for more money, and the guy doesn't
> look back once.

Loyalty isn't something a company can ask of you without doing
anything for it. If they have a program of benefits and put some
money in making a person feel at home, they wouldn't have to worry so
much about their people moving away. I am (was) quite happy to work
for less money at a place that didn't see you as a statistic and did
something extra for you. But if you feel like a number, what is going
to keep you there?

> Right now at Ford, contract (as opposed to direct Ford) positions are about
> 30%. The department I worked in was 70% contract. When I got another job
> offer for a company with some better benefits, I was out of there in a
> flash. They didn't show me any loyalty, so I returned the favor. And from
> what I saw that carried over to a lot of the direct employees.

Exactly, plus high turn over = less team bonding = less loyalty. I
wonder when they realize that putting some more money into keeping
people happy would easily offset the cost of training new people all
the time.

> They still have to watch what they do. Look at what's happening to GM right
> now. There are actually only a few thousand employees on strike. But since
> everything is so inter-related no, those few have closed down 30 plants and
> effectively prevented GM from manufacturing any cars for the last 2 months.
> If you piss off the right people, you can do a lot of damage.

That's a very interesting example. Thanks, I should remember that,
although I doubt if they could pull it off in 205X. The Corps there
seem to have thrown common decency overboard and tend to "negotiate"
the Fifth element way.

> All of a sudden, for a week to maybe a few months that product doesn't get
> made. The company loses 50 million a day. They have to pay 50 million to
> build a new factory, or maybe only 10 million to retool another one. Prices
> for used versions of the product double. All stuff that's happening now
> with GM could happen from Shadowrunners hitting that one plant.

Look at Cyberdyne in T2. Okay so they blew up the whole building, but
the insurance should cover that, but by destroying the research they
probably were completely crippled and I doubt if the company could
have survived that.


Martin Steffens
(chimerae@***.ie)
-----------------
Hey Butt-Head, what did people do before they invented TV?
Don't be stupid, Beavis. There's always been TV, there's just more channels now.
Message no. 3
From: bryan.covington@****.COM
Subject: Re: Wageslaves (was:Rumours and Media in 2050)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:36:05 -0400
<snip>

> > They still have to watch what they do. Look at what's happening to
> GM right
> > now. There are actually only a few thousand employees on strike. But
> since
> > everything is so inter-related no, those few have closed down 30
> plants and
> > effectively prevented GM from manufacturing any cars for the last 2
> months.
> > If you piss off the right people, you can do a lot of damage.
>
> That's a very interesting example. Thanks, I should remember that,
> although I doubt if they could pull it off in 205X. The Corps there
> seem to have thrown common decency overboard and tend to "negotiate"
> the Fifth element way.
>
Hey aren't all the labor unions run by the mob. You are
assuming the corps have gotten more brutal and the unions haven't. Maybe
next time the GM workers take all the #2251222VXZ-ZDWF pins out of their
robot machines before they walk out. Now the factory's equipment is shot
unless they can order more #2251222VXZ-ZDWF pins, but since the other
plant is run by Big Tony's cousin Louie so they "lost" the shipment in
transit, damndest thing.
So the plant is still shut down.

> > All of a sudden, for a week to maybe a few months that product
> doesn't get
> > made. The company loses 50 million a day. They have to pay 50
> million to
> > build a new factory, or maybe only 10 million to retool another one.
> Prices
> > for used versions of the product double. All stuff that's happening
> now
> > with GM could happen from Shadowrunners hitting that one plant.
>
> Look at Cyberdyne in T2. Okay so they blew up the whole building, but
> the insurance should cover that, but by destroying the research they
> probably were completely crippled and I doubt if the company could
> have survived that.
>
For the most part but if the scientists had any
knowledge of the process in their heads or on their laptops then the
whole deal was for naught and Cyberdyne can hold off the creditors long
enough to get something to market, kludgey or not, to keep them afloat.
In my estimation they just slowed the process.
Remember what the lead tech guy said, "It got us
thinking in whole new directions.". Well the rest of the team is still
thinking that way. In fact this would be a great time to jump ship with
your ideas and open another startup making advanced processors.

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