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Message no. 1
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Webring
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:20:16 +1100
Okay, folks, well I've got a few weeks left before I have to go back to
Uni, so I"m making the most of them. I'm setting up a Shadowrun Webring.

All sites welcome (provided that they contain some original work, not
just lists of links to other sites); email me and I'll let you know when
the ring is functional so that you can all register your sites.

Please join!


Lady Jestyr

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never have enough sugar. - Michael
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Message no. 2
From: Thomas <thomas@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Webring
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:21:43 -0600
At 11:30 PM 2/5/97 +1100, Lady Jestyr wrote:
>2. You include the appropriate HTML fragment on your SR page.
>This is to ensure the survival of the ring. This fragment includes the
>Back, Next etc. ring-browsing functions - if someone follows the ring
>inot your page and that stuffs not there, that person is stuck at your
>page and the ring breaks down.

Quick round of questions-

Where does the webring HTML code go on one's site? Entry page? Link page?
Does it matter where the HTML goes on one's site (that has multiple pages)?

In the form, I'd like the visitors from the ring to enter a certain page -
is this the same page you'd like the HTML code on? Or if I put the HTML
code on a different page, will that mess up the ring?



Thomas Deeny
Infobahn Austin
512 320 0556
Message no. 3
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Webring
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:37 +1100
> Where does the webring HTML code go on one's site? Entry page? Link page?
> Does it matter where the HTML goes on one's site (that has multiple pages)?

It depends - if your enitre site is SR-related, or just about (i.e. Like
yours, Thomas, and many others I've seen) it can go on the front page,
or wherever you'd like.

On pages like mine, where I have a lot of other stuff there as well as
the Shadowrun stuff, I want the HTML for the ring to go on an SR-related
page if possible. If it's on the front page, but links to your Shadowrun
stuff from there are *clearly* visible (again, take my page as an
example) then taht's fine too.

> In the form, I'd like the visitors from the ring to enter a certain page -
> is this the same page you'd like the HTML code on? Or if I put the HTML
> code on a different page, will that mess up the ring?

Best to have the HTML code on either the ring entry page *or* on your
main/front page, not tucked away elsewhere. Basically, put yourself in
the shoes of a browsing person unfamiliar with your site - will they be
able to find the webring control bar easily enough?

Lady Jestyr

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A titanic intellect in a world full of icebergs
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Elle Holmes jestyr@*******.dialix.com.au
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1503/
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Remember, no matter what they say, you can
never have enough sugar. - Michael
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Message no. 4
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Webring?
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:23:15 +0000
What happened? I swear I visited FASA's page yesterday and it had
joined and had links to both the Shadowrun Webring and the Earthdawn
Webring. I check today, and nothing????

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 5
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:38:17 +1000
> What happened? I swear I visited FASA's page yesterday and it had
> joined and had links to both the Shadowrun Webring and the Earthdawn
> Webring. I check today, and nothing????

There was indeed links up yesterday - three rather prmoinent links, in
fact... methinks I shall have to find out what has happened. :(

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 6
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:22:24 -0700
>> What happened? I swear I visited FASA's page yesterday and it had
>> joined and had links to both the Shadowrun Webring and the Earthdawn
>> Webring. I check today, and nothing????

> There was indeed links up yesterday - three rather prmoinent links,
in
> fact... methinks I shall have to find out what has happened. :(

They're still there. Main FASA page, first entry under What's New
says: "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings! (Posted September
15, 1997)."

The link takes you right to the Webrings.

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Message no. 7
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:59:41 +0000
> They're still there. Main FASA page, first entry under What's New
> says: "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings! (Posted September
> 15, 1997)."
>
> The link takes you right to the Webrings.

That's what I saw on the 15th, but since then (including right now) I
don't see it.


Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 8
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:50:44 -0700
---Brett Borger wrote:
>
> > They're still there. Main FASA page, first entry under What's New
> > says: "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings! (Posted
September
> > 15, 1997)."
> >
> > The link takes you right to the Webrings.
>
> That's what I saw on the 15th, but since then (including right now) I
> don't see it.

I just now went to FASA's site and refreshed on their main page twice
to make sure. "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings! (Posted
September 15, 1997)" is still the first entry under What's New and the
link takes you right to a page with both webrings.

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Message no. 9
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:55:13 EST
> > That's what I saw on the 15th, but since then (including right now) I
> > don't see it.
>
> I just now went to FASA's site and refreshed on their main page
> twice to make sure. "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings!
> (Posted September 15, 1997)" is still the first entry under What's
> New and the link takes you right to a page with both webrings.

I just did an hour after I posted, and I too saw the links
again....but I swear they weren't there before (the newest Maximum
tech FAQ update wasn't either). Something funky going on....

(I also did multiple reloads recently to make sure. No change)
Message no. 10
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:14:29 -0500
At 04:55 PM 9/18/97 EST, Brett Borger wrote:
#> > That's what I saw on the 15th, but since then (including right now) I
#> > don't see it.
#>
#> I just now went to FASA's site and refreshed on their main page
#> twice to make sure. "FASA Joins Earthdawn and Shadowrun Web Rings!
#> (Posted September 15, 1997)" is still the first entry under What's
#> New and the link takes you right to a page with both webrings.
#
#I just did an hour after I posted, and I too saw the links
#again....but I swear they weren't there before (the newest Maximum
#tech FAQ update wasn't either). Something funky going on....
#
#(I also did multiple reloads recently to make sure. No change)

reloads or shift-reloads

if you hit shift as you press reload the entire page is reloaded, instead
of pulled from cache
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Message no. 11
From: Debbie Hughes <hughesd@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 07:05:34 -0500
please take me off this list
Message no. 12
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 07:26:12 -0600
Debbie Hughes wrote:
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| please take me off this list

To receive a copy of the imporant list commands send the following
message to listserv@********.itribe.net

HELP

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Message no. 13
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:45:27 +0100
|please take me off this list
|

Why not do it yourself?
You do have the mini-FAQ with all the instructions y'know.
(And if you deleted it then tough nuts)
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Message no. 14
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Webring?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:39:12 +0000
On 22 Sep 97 at 7:26, David Buehrer wrote:

> Debbie Hughes wrote:
> |
> | please take me off this list
>
> To receive a copy of the imporant list commands send the following
> message to listserv@********.itribe.net
>
> HELP
>

I've already e-mailed her the unsub instructions privately.

See David? I can behave. :)

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Message no. 15
From: Simon Fuller sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: web ring
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:07:28 +1100
For the month and a half that I have had the internet connected, I have been
trying to see as much of the Shadowrun Webring as I can, and it isn't easy.
A lot of sites are gone, a lot are extremely dated. Each page lists a
different owner (or so it would seem). All you web veterans are probably
unaware of this because you bookmarked your favorite sites years ago, so I
just thought I'd let you know. I don't know what updating would entail, but
I imagine it would be a lot of work. It would be nice though.
Message no. 16
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: web ring
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:00:24 -0700
At 15:07 3/3/00 +1100, Simon Fuller wrote:
>For the month and a half that I have had the internet connected, I have been
>trying to see as much of the Shadowrun Webring as I can, and it isn't easy.
>A lot of sites are gone, a lot are extremely dated. Each page lists a
>different owner (or so it would seem). All you web veterans are probably
>unaware of this because you bookmarked your favorite sites years ago, so I
>just thought I'd let you know. I don't know what updating would entail, but
>I imagine it would be a lot of work. It would be nice though.

The main Webring page asks people to email outdated sites to Lady Jestyr
(Or at least it did.). There's also a message board on the DR Forums where
you can report dead sites.

Feel free to email them to ME, for that matter. I can pass the addresses
along to Jestyr as need be.

Matter of fact, feel more than free - DO IT! Please!

Adam
< http://shadowrun.html.com/tss / adamj@*********.html.com / UIN 2350330>
Message no. 17
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: web ring
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:03:05 -0500
At 03:07 PM 3/3/00 +1100, you wrote:
>For the month and a half that I have had the internet connected, I have been
>trying to see as much of the Shadowrun Webring as I can, and it isn't easy.
>A lot of sites are gone, a lot are extremely dated. Each page lists a
>different owner (or so it would seem).
>
Well, yeah... that's because each site *IS* owned by someone different.
Otherwise they'd all be on the same page :]

As for who owns the web ring itself, that'd be Lady Jestyr :]

>All you web veterans are probably
>unaware of this because you bookmarked your favorite sites years ago, so I
>just thought I'd let you know. I don't know what updating would entail, but
>I imagine it would be a lot of work. It would be nice though.
>
I know Jes has had a LOT of stuff going on in her life, and hasn't had the
time she really needs to update the ring on a regular basis.

The SR Web Ring is one of the biggest rings out there, and unfortunately
between new sites popping up and sites going dead, it's a lot of work to
keep up with.

Maybe if anyone has the know how and the drive, Jes might be willing to
take on an apprentice to help her out (aka, do the hard shit :))

Bull
Message no. 18
From: Simon Fuller sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: web ring
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:54:56 +1100
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam J <adamj@*********.html.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: web ring


>At 15:07 3/3/00 +1100, Simon Fuller wrote:
> >For the month and a half that I have had the internet connected, I have
been
> >trying to see as much of the Shadowrun Webring as I can, and it isn't
easy.
> >A lot of sites are gone, a lot are extremely dated. Each page lists a
> >different owner (or so it would seem). All you web veterans are probably
> >unaware of this because you bookmarked your favorite sites years ago, so
I
> >just thought I'd let you know. I don't know what updating would entail,
but
> >I imagine it would be a lot of work. It would be nice though.
>
>The main Webring page asks people to email outdated sites to Lady Jestyr
>(Or at least it did.). There's also a message board on the DR Forums where
>you can report dead sites.
>
>Feel free to email them to ME, for that matter. I can pass the addresses
>along to Jestyr as need be.
>
>Matter of fact, feel more than free - DO IT! Please!
>
>Adam
>< http://shadowrun.html.com/tss / adamj@*********.html.com / UIN 2350330>
>
There's a main page? I have just been blundering on through :)
I will start making a list. Thanks.
Message no. 19
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: web ring
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 10:05:32 +1000
>For the month and a half that I have had the internet connected, I have been
>trying to see as much of the Shadowrun Webring as I can, and it isn't easy.
>A lot of sites are gone, a lot are extremely dated. Each page lists a
>different owner (or so it would seem). All you web veterans are probably
>unaware of this because you bookmarked your favorite sites years ago, so I
>just thought I'd let you know. I don't know what updating would entail, but
>I imagine it would be a lot of work. It would be nice though.

As the Webring maintainer, now's probably a good moment for an apology.

The simple truth is that right now, my personal life has been EXTREMELY
busy, as those who know me can confirm. I *am* working on beating the
Webring back into shape, but given how large it is, it's a long, slow process.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 20
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:55:43 +1000
Yay, me.

The Shadowrun Webring has gone from having 356 sites in the ring and 68 in
the queue, to having 385 in the ring and 9 in the queue. Things are looking
up.

Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*

Just thought some of you might care.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 21
From: Simon Fuller sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:16:34 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*********.html.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 7:09 PM
Subject: Webring


>
>Yay, me.
>
>The Shadowrun Webring has gone from having 356 sites in the ring and 68 in
>the queue, to having 385 in the ring and 9 in the queue. Things are looking
>up.
>
>Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*
>
>Just thought some of you might care.
>
>Lady Jestyr
> ~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~
>
>* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
>
>
Hey, I care, I'm waiting for the grande tour of the whole ring. Gonna have
time too, another frigging cyclone is on its way here :)
Message no. 22
From: Damian Robinson max_rob@******.com.au
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:22:39 +1000
Simon Fuller wrote:
>
> >Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*

Congrats on what you've done so far.

> >Just thought some of you might care.
> >
> >Lady Jestyr

> Hey, I care, I'm waiting for the grande tour of the whole ring.
> Gonna have time too, another frigging cyclone is on its way here :)

I'm sure that you're work is appreciated Lady J...
Its just a quiet appreciation. :-{>
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Message no. 23
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 05:39:08 EST
In a message dated Thu, 16 Mar 2000 4:08:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, Lady Jestyr
<jestyr@*********.html.com> writes:

> Yay, me.
> The Shadowrun Webring has gone from having 356 sites in the ring and 68 in
> the queue, to having 385 in the ring and 9 in the queue. Things are looking
> up.
> Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*
> Just thought some of you might care.

I'm sure some of us care LadyJ :-)

-K
Message no. 24
From: Logan Graves Logan@************.virtualAve.net
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:09:22 -0500
In our last episode, Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
> Yay, me.
>
> Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*

Great, I'll start stocking provisions for another Grand Webring Walkabout. ;-)

>
> Just thought some of you might care.

Of course we care, silly! Give yourself another pat on the back, will ya?

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Message no. 25
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:14:49 -0800 (PST)
> > Yay, me.
> > The Shadowrun Webring has gone from having 356
> sites in the ring and 68 in
> > the queue, to having 385 in the ring and 9 in the
> queue. Things are looking
> > up.
> > Now to fix all the broken points in the ring
> itself... *sigh*
> > Just thought some of you might care.
>
> I'm sure some of us care LadyJ :-)
>
> -K

Speak for yourself...

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Message no. 26
From: Frank Bek iceman1@****.nl
Subject: Webring
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:37:16 +0100
----- Original Message -----
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*********.html.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 9:55 AM
Subject: Webring


>
> Yay, me.
>
> The Shadowrun Webring has gone from having 356 sites in the ring and 68 in
> the queue, to having 385 in the ring and 9 in the queue. Things are
looking
> up.
>
> Now to fix all the broken points in the ring itself... *sigh*
>
> Just thought some of you might care.
>
> Lady Jestyr
> ~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~
>
> * jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
>
I do appriciate if very much, and rest for a while You've earned it. If I
find any dead links or anything interested I will bring it to your
attention. I'll mail some of my friends who too are playing shadowrun but
aren't on this mailing list so they too can appriciate your great wrok.

Matrix Skater
"Skatin' till morning comes along, then skating on to the edge of
Cyberspace"

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