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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 00:35:01 2001
So the kids want to watch the Disney Tarzan movie and... Ok Ok, they don't
care what they watch as long as it's animated in some way, but *sigh* I
admit it-- I like the Tarzan movie. Let's move on.

It gave me an idea for a wacky character concept. What about a girl who was
raised by gargoyles? They rescued her as a baby. At around 14 she's
reintroduced to society... no Sin --*Tada* Shadowrunner! I know it's iffy.
Feel free to help me make this work

Help me with a few things. I own the Germany and England sourcebooks, but I
can't find any relevant information. Are gargoyles sentient in SR or what?
How do they live? What do they eat? Are they friendly? I saw the Gargoyle
totem in Awakenings, and it said patient and knowing-- where does that come
from? If no one ever said give me whatever you think it might be. How do
you think this character should be played?

Thanks in advance Shadowrun guru's,

Kismet
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 04:50:06 2001
According to Kismet, on Fri, 16 Mar 2001 the word on the street was...

> So the kids want to watch the Disney Tarzan movie and... Ok Ok, they don't
> care what they watch as long as it's animated in some way, but *sigh* I
> admit it-- I like the Tarzan movie. Let's move on.

Oh yeah, you were the Disney fan, right? :)

> It gave me an idea for a wacky character concept. What about a girl who was
> raised by gargoyles? They rescued her as a baby. At around 14 she's
> reintroduced to society... no Sin --*Tada* Shadowrunner! I know it's iffy.
> Feel free to help me make this work

Okayyyy....

> Help me with a few things. I own the Germany and England sourcebooks, but I
> can't find any relevant information.

Most of what's said about gargoyles is in the two Paranormal Animals books;
there's a species of gargoyle in each, but the information is rather
sketchy.

> Are gargoyles sentient in SR or what?

Not according to their stats: Intelligence 2/4 and 2/5 indicates they have
animal-level intelligence.

> How do they live?

That's the big unknown. Gargoyles seem to be instantly adult, with no young
ever having been observed. Apparently they mostly sit on tall buildings
waiting for food to come by.

> What do they eat?

Meat. They hunt by swooping down onto their prey from high places,
obviously using their wings to good advantage.

> Are they friendly?

No idea, but judging by the pictures, I would say they're not :)

> I saw the Gargoyle totem in Awakenings, and it said patient and
> knowing-- where does that come from?

Probably based on thoughts about gargoyles in general, who tend to sit very
still on top of old buildings where they would be able to see everything
going by, if they weren't made of stone :)

> How do you think this character should be played?

I'm not sure it's such a good idea. Gargoyles raising her, maybe. But IMO
she'd be so out of touch with the world that the only places she could live
would be either with the gargoyles, or in some kind of institution...
Neither works very well for a shadowrunner character, I would say.

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Alfredo B Alves)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 09:20:05 2001
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:37:01 -0600 "Kismet" <kismet-sr@****.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Help me with a few things. I own the Germany and England
> sourcebooks, but I
> can't find any relevant information. Are gargoyles sentient in SR or
> what?
> How do they live? What do they eat? Are they friendly?

According to PAoE, European Gargoyles are carnivores, stalking prey as a
bird of prey. They are considered unitelligent. Judging from their lack
of Charisma, I'd say they are actually animal intelligence and not just
classified as such. Recent sightings in and around Berlin seem to
indicate an alpha male pack leader. (perhaps with a short moustache?)
European Gargoyles average 1.5 meters tall and 160 kilograms. The
European gargoyle appears to exist as adult males. Sorry, I don't have
much info on North American Gargoyles other than their stats. :/

> I saw the
> Gargoyle
> totem in Awakenings, and it said patient and knowing-- where does
> that come
> from?

No clue. :)

> If no one ever said give me whatever you think it might be.
> How do
> you think this character should be played?

Perhaps like she was raised by owls; a patient bird of prey. However,
unless she manifested awakened powers early in age, she was probably kept
at "home" and looked after. It doesn't seem likely that the gargoyles
would have kept looking after her, however, unless she could contribute
to the pack. I would also say that she would have had to have been raised
by one of the Berlin packs with an alpha male. He has rudimentary pack
control over the other gargoyles. As to whether or not there are female
gargoyles, the character might know better than scientists. :) Who
knows... awakened foundlings may be an integral part of their
reproductive cycle...Some sort of ritual to create a new gargoyle
(perhaps infuse a stone gargoyle with life?)

> Thanks in advance Shadowrun guru's,

And me too, right? ;)

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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Wordman)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 11:15:01 2001
Gurth wrote:
> According to Kismet, on Fri, 16 Mar 2001 the word on the street was...
> > What do they eat?
>
> Meat.

Such as abandoned baby girls.

If you wanted to run a character like this in my campaign, I'd make you come
up with a very convincing reason why the gargoyles didn't just eat her.
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Greg Cugini)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 11:40:00 2001
/delurk mode suspended

Gargoyles, in D&D at least, and how I've always seen them written up, are
cruel carnivores with a cunning predators level intelligence.
What they enjoy most is torturing prey they capture, and the more
intelligent they prey, the more they enjoy it. If they were to happen across
an abandoned human child, it would be gruesome. They would never raise
anything they found, they would torture it until they were bored, then kill
it and eat it. Honestly they don't deserve to be cast in a good light by
raising a human child, try to find a more deserving Awakened creature to use
as your characters parents. The idea is cool, the raised by wolves
archetype, just the parent creature you have in mind is the wrong one.

Greg

/delurk mode re-engaged



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wordman [SMTP:wordman@*******.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: shadowrn@*********.com
> Subject: RE: What do gargoyles eat?
>
> Gurth wrote:
> > According to Kismet, on Fri, 16 Mar 2001 the word on the street was...
> > > What do they eat?
> >
> > Meat.
>
> Such as abandoned baby girls.
>
> If you wanted to run a character like this in my campaign, I'd make you
> come
> up with a very convincing reason why the gargoyles didn't just eat her.
>
Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Max Rible)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 13:45:01 2001
At 23:37 3/15/01 -0600, Kismet wrote:
>Help me with a few things. I own the Germany and England sourcebooks, but I
>can't find any relevant information. Are gargoyles sentient in SR or what?
>How do they live? What do they eat?

Pigeons, of course.


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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Wordman)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 14:50:01 2001
> Pigeons, of course.

Random segue: my ex-roommate works in downtown Boston, where a peregrine
falcon has taken up residence in one of the high rises. While at work one
day, he was watching a pigeon fly by outside his window. All of the sudden,
this dark streak comes down from the sky and the pigeon explodes in a puff
of blood and feathers: chalk up one dinner for the falcon.

Imagine this happening with a gargoyle.
Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Sebastian Wiers)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 21:10:01 2001
>> > What do they eat?
>>
>> Meat.
>
>Such as abandoned baby girls.

Damn, that was gonna be my line.

Anywho, in ED gargoyles are one of the nastier vestages of the Scourge. The
come in packs, are individually a match for fairly powerful characters, they
fly, and they are strong enough to just carry most people off- even if you
CAN kill them, do you want to at that point?
In SR terms, think of them as tainted mountain spirits inhabiting physical
bodies. They may be easier to kill in SR times (maybe they get nastier as
the magic level rises, and guns help some), but they probably are not any
friendlier.

IMO gargoyle totem is like the dragon (or dragonslayer) totem - its not
based on the actual animal (that would be a toxic totem, IMO), but instead
on peoples attitudes towards the mythology surrounding it.

-Mongoose
Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Maxfield)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 21:45:01 2001
Records show that at 10:46 on Friday 16/03/01, Max Rible scribbled:
>At 23:37 3/15/01 -0600, Kismet wrote:
>>Help me with a few things. I own the Germany and England sourcebooks, but I
>>can't find any relevant information. Are gargoyles sentient in SR or what?
>>How do they live? What do they eat?
>
>Pigeons, of course.

Or insects and other edible particulates filtered, from the roof run-off
rain water, through their ears and out of their spout-like mouths. :-)

Chris
Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 22:35:01 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: Gurth <Gurth@******.nl>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: What do gargoyles eat?


According to Kismet, on Fri, 16 Mar 2001 the word on the street was...


>Oh yeah, you were the Disney fan, right? :)

It's an aquired taste like Mountain Dew.

> Are gargoyles sentient in SR or what?

Not according to their stats: Intelligence 2/4 and 2/5 indicates they have
animal-level intelligence.

> How do they live?

>That's the big unknown. Gargoyles seem to be instantly adult, with no young
ever having been observed. Apparently they mostly sit on tall buildings
waiting for food to come by.

But that lends itself to fudging here. I can basically make it up. Which I
could anyway, but I wanted to know what was common knowledge.

> How do you think this character should be played?

>I'm not sure it's such a good idea. Gargoyles raising her, maybe. But IMO
she'd be so out of touch with the world that the only places she could live
would be either with the gargoyles, or in some kind of institution...
Neither works very well for a shadowrunner character, I would say.

I was going to make her sort of like a shapeshifter in personality--very
animalistic. She would have been away from the gargoyles long enough to
adapt. I am leaning towards making this character an NPC at this point
anyway.

Thanks
Kismet
Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 22:55:01 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: What do gargoyles eat?
Thank you for the information.

> Perhaps like she was raised by owls; a patient bird of prey. However,
> unless she manifested awakened powers early in age, she was probably kept
> at "home" and looked after. It doesn't seem likely that the gargoyles
> would have kept looking after her, however, unless she could contribute
> to the pack. I would also say that she would have had to have been raised
> by one of the Berlin packs with an alpha male. He has rudimentary pack
> control over the other gargoyles. As to whether or not there are female
> gargoyles, the character might know better than scientists. :) Who
> knows... awakened foundlings may be an integral part of their
> reproductive cycle...Some sort of ritual to create a new gargoyle
> (perhaps infuse a stone gargoyle with life?)
>

Interesting. I am planning on making her a magical character- probably
physad. I was also thinking that they might use a form of Telepathy to
communicate. Since noone knows- why not?

> > Thanks in advance Shadowrun guru's,
>
> And me too, right? ;)
>
> --
> D. Ghost

You mean you haven't been inducted after all this time? You've been posting
(intelligently in most cases)here forever! ;)
Message no. 12
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 23:00:01 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: Wordman <wordman@*******.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: What do gargoyles eat?


> Gurth wrote:
> > According to Kismet, on Fri, 16 Mar 2001 the word on the street was...
> > > What do they eat?
> >
> > Meat.
>
> Such as abandoned baby girls.

LOL!! Touche (dont know how to do the little line above the e)
>
> If you wanted to run a character like this in my campaign, I'd make you
come
> up with a very convincing reason why the gargoyles didn't just eat her.
>

But isn't that intriguing from a GM perspective? There would have to be
something incredibly special about this person for them to take her in.


Kismet
Message no. 13
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Fri Mar 16 23:15:01 2001
> /delurk mode suspended
>
> Gargoyles, in D&D at least, and how I've always seen them written up, are
> cruel carnivores with a cunning predators level intelligence.
> What they enjoy most is torturing prey they capture, and the more
> intelligent they prey, the more they enjoy it. If they were to happen
across
> an abandoned human child, it would be gruesome. They would never raise
> anything they found, they would torture it until they were bored, then
kill
> it and eat it. Honestly they don't deserve to be cast in a good light by
> raising a human child, try to find a more deserving Awakened creature to
use
> as your characters parents. The idea is cool, the raised by wolves
> archetype, just the parent creature you have in mind is the wrong one.
>
and from Mongoose:

> Anywho, in ED gargoyles are one of the nastier vestages of the Scourge.
The
> come in packs, are individually a match for fairly powerful characters,
they
> fly, and they are strong enough to just carry most people off- even if you
> CAN kill them, do you want to at that point?
> In SR terms, think of them as tainted mountain spirits inhabiting physical
> bodies. They may be easier to kill in SR times (maybe they get nastier as
> the magic level rises, and guns help some), but they probably are not any
> friendlier.

In this light I can see why everyone thinks this is such a bad idea. So
those are two roleplaying games that portray gargoyles in a negative light.
I remember my husband watching some cartoon where the gargoyles were hero's.
Where does the gargoyle mythos come from?

Kismet
Message no. 14
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Simon and Fiona)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 05:40:01 2001
-----Original Message-----
From: Kismet <kismet-sr@****.com>
To: ShadowRN <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:41 PM
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?


>So the kids want to watch the Disney Tarzan movie and... Ok Ok, they don't
>care what they watch as long as it's animated in some way, but *sigh* I
>admit it-- I like the Tarzan movie. Let's move on.
>
>It gave me an idea for a wacky character concept. What about a girl who was
>raised by gargoyles? They rescued her as a baby. At around 14 she's
>reintroduced to society... no Sin --*Tada* Shadowrunner! I know it's iffy.
>Feel free to help me make this work
>

That is a very cool idea. Picture this. A little girl sits in an
uncomfortable looking position, crouched on a low wall in the park, leaning
so far forward it looks like she'll fall any moment. She looks stunted and
malnourished, yet very strong. Not a muscle twitches. People watching her,
wondering if it isn't some typical overnight artwork so well known in
Seattle and not a real girl after all. Suddenly there is a blur of movement
as a passing cyclist stirs up the pigeons, and the watchers realise there's
a pigeon in her mouth. Slowly, methodically, she crunches into the bird,
then swallows it, feathers and all. As people faint, retch and turn away, a
shadowy looking character appears from the crowd "Come on, Sarah, " he says,
putting a fatherly hand on her dirty grey shoulder, "We have a job to do,
fifteenth storey."

I'd say personally that gargoyles eat whatever small creatures they find up
there; birds, cats, rats, insects, the hands of catburglars...
Message no. 15
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Simon and Fiona)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 05:50:01 2001
-----Original Message-----
From: Kismet <kismet-sr@****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: What do gargoyles eat?


>In this light I can see why everyone thinks this is such a bad idea. So
>those are two roleplaying games that portray gargoyles in a negative light.
>I remember my husband watching some cartoon where the gargoyles were
hero's.
>Where does the gargoyle mythos come from?
>

I think Bull has rules on converting the Shadowrun rules to play gargoyles
as seen on the cartoon Gargoyles, as opposed to the SR critters, but I could
have my web sites mixed up.

Traditionally there is no mythical creature called a gargoyle, they were
never more than stone beasties to medieval people. In fact there are more
gargoyles in the shape of people, domestic animals and objects than there
are of fantastic beasts. (There are some great books on the subject, full of
very cool photos, to the library with ye!) As far as I know, D&D was the
first to treat them as living things. So, especially since Shadowrun left
their lifestyles so vague, you can pretty much say whatever you like about
the way they live and you'll be as correct as the next non-employee of
whoever writes SR now.
Message no. 16
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Simon and Fiona)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 06:00:01 2001
-----Original Message-----
From: Wordman <wordman@*******.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: What do gargoyles eat?



>> Meat.
>
>Such as abandoned baby girls.
>
>If you wanted to run a character like this in my campaign, I'd make you
come
>up with a very convincing reason why the gargoyles didn't just eat her.
>

I disagree. Wolves also eat babies if they can, but there are a few stories
about wolf children. It could be as easy as a gargoyle mother who lost her
cub happening upon the child of a suicide jumper, left on the roof of a
building. Or maybe her astral signature happens to be very simmilar to that
of a gargoyle for some freak reason, and they stole her and raised her
thinking she was an invalid of their own species (I like the second version
better, it has great imagery of gargoyles smashing through the nursery
window as if the hardened glass did not exist and snatching the screaming
infant from its crib).
Message no. 17
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Shane Hyde)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 08:25:00 2001
> >In this light I can see why everyone thinks this is such a bad idea. So
> >those are two roleplaying games that portray gargoyles in a negative
light.
> >I remember my husband watching some cartoon where the gargoyles were
> hero's.
> >Where does the gargoyle mythos come from?

Like the wooden pointy things at the end of some roofs (meant to skewer
Witches when they landed on the tiles - although nobody ever asked what
happened to Saint Nick), Gargoyles were built/constructed/grown (whatever)
to keep away evil spirits with their scary faces. Makes them ideal for
Gothic-Corp (TM) to stick around the balustrades to keep the great unwashed
out.

I think in the end, rather than evil spirits (evil spirits not being that
dumb as to think "omigod! a stone ugly thing!", Gargoyles purposes changed
slightly - and were used to scare people who would lay sieges to said gothic
castle. Some even went so far as to put spouts coming out their mouths, and
that wasn't just for water off the roof...

Terry Pratchett's treatment of gargoyles is amusing. In the Discworld series
they filter food from the water that passes through their heads/mouths and
they speak "ig id".

It kinda makes sense to imagine them animate, as they were intended as
guardians...

And Gargoyles: the series was very cool - quite dark and sometimes quite
cyber (although half the voice talent was half the cast of Star Trek: The
Next Generation, which was strangely disturbing).

Boy, can I spout off sometimes.

Shane
Message no. 18
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Alfredo B Alves)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 18:25:00 2001
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:14:47 -0600 "Kismet" <kismet-sr@****.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> In this light I can see why everyone thinks this is such a bad idea.
> So
> those are two roleplaying games that portray gargoyles in a negative
> light.
> I remember my husband watching some cartoon where the gargoyles were
> hero's.
> Where does the gargoyle mythos come from?

Regardless of how you run Gargoyles in your game world, you can use that
tidbit in PAoE about the possible presence of an alpha male pack leader.
Your character's pack was an exceptional alpha male pack leader that had
a different behavior from normal gargoyles. Perhaps as long as he was
around, she was fine, but when he wasn't ... Maybe she left/escaped the
pack when he was overthrown/killed. The character, in my opinion, has
plenty of potentional as a PC or NPC. I would love to see something like
this in a game I ran. Then I gain, I live for off the wall stuff and
anti-sterotypes. :)

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Message no. 19
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Alfredo B Alves)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 18:25:06 2001
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:57:39 -0600 "Kismet" <kismet-sr@****.com> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.com>
<SNIP>
> Interesting. I am planning on making her a magical character-
> probably
> physad. I was also thinking that they might use a form of Telepathy
> to
> communicate. Since noone knows- why not?

Cool. If you make her a follower of the gargoyle totem, the acceptance by
the gargoyle pack could be a sign of protection from The Great Gargoyle
In The Sky, or something. :) If you make this a NPC, it'd be kind of cool
if she was /still/ a member of the pack and they accompanied her to
various places (ie, meets), even if they are not obviously doing so.

"What is it with this chick? She always managed to find the dtrangest
places to meet. Why can't we, just once, meet in some cherrful place
without all these damn gargoyles around? Uhm ... did that one just move?"

> > > Thanks in advance Shadowrun guru's,

> > And me too, right? ;)

> You mean you haven't been inducted after all this time? You've been
> posting
> (intelligently in most cases)here forever! ;)

Gosh ... you're making me blush. ;)

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Message no. 20
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Hahns Shin)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sat Mar 17 23:35:01 2001
> Random segue: my ex-roommate works in downtown Boston, where a peregrine
> falcon has taken up residence in one of the high rises. While at work one
> day, he was watching a pigeon fly by outside his window. All of the
sudden,
> this dark streak comes down from the sky and the pigeon explodes in a puff
> of blood and feathers: chalk up one dinner for the falcon.
>
> Imagine this happening with a gargoyle.
Dear God! Peregrine falcons eat gargoyles!?! Must be Awakened falcons...

Hahns Shin, MS I
Budding cybersurgeon
Message no. 21
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Kismet)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sun Mar 18 08:00:01 2001
>
> That is a very cool idea. Picture this. A little girl sits in an
> uncomfortable looking position, crouched on a low wall in the park,
leaning
> so far forward it looks like she'll fall any moment. She looks stunted and
> malnourished, yet very strong. Not a muscle twitches. People watching her,
> wondering if it isn't some typical overnight artwork so well known in
> Seattle and not a real girl after all. Suddenly there is a blur of
movement
> as a passing cyclist stirs up the pigeons, and the watchers realise
there's
> a pigeon in her mouth. Slowly, methodically, she crunches into the bird,
> then swallows it, feathers and all. As people faint, retch and turn away,
a
> shadowy looking character appears from the crowd "Come on, Sarah, " he
says,
> putting a fatherly hand on her dirty grey shoulder, "We have a job to do,
> fifteenth storey."
>
>
Where is the rest of the story? What a great intro for some fan fiction.
Message no. 22
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Simon and Fiona)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Sun Mar 18 22:35:03 2001
-----Original Message-----
From: Kismet <kismet-sr@****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: What do gargoyles eat?


>>
>Where is the rest of the story? What a great intro for some fan fiction.
>
>
Thanks, its tempting since I really like the concept, but I've already got
two SR fanfics that I haven't finished.
Message no. 23
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Wordman)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Mon Mar 19 11:00:01 2001
> Dear God! Peregrine falcons eat gargoyles!?! Must be Awakened falcons...

"Bite your head off, man."
Message no. 24
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Wordman)
Subject: What do gargoyles eat?
Date: Mon Mar 19 11:00:03 2001
Simon and Fiona wrote:
> Wordman wrote
>> If you wanted to run a character like this in my campaign,
>> I'd make you come up with a very convincing reason why the
>> gargoyles didn't just eat her.

> I disagree. Wolves also eat babies if they can, but there are a
> few stories about wolf children. It could be as easy as a
> gargoyle mother who lost her cub happening upon the child
> of a suicide jumper, left on the roof of a building. Or
> maybe her astral signature happens to be very simmilar to
> that of a gargoyle for some freak reason

I'd consider either of those to be "convincing reasons". I wasn't saying
that I wouldn't allow it, I'm just saying it would need to be well explained
(and, not incidentally, making a good story).

Wordman

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