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Message no. 1
From: Michael Vinciguerra <DaStone1@***.COM>
Subject: Whats the deal with these shapeshifters in the SR rulebook?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 22:39:38 -0400
Ok i was just trying to create a shapeshifter npc, and the boo says
that these things have enhanced physical attributes in animal form. Usually
this means that they add their essence (8) to their attributes. Now lets
take a tiger, it has a body and stength of an 8, i forget the quickness at
this time, but hey no big deal. The bear shapeshifter has a body and strength
of A+2, in this case, a 10 and a 10, now do you add the essence now? or is
the A+2 the bonus, I think that a natural strength of a 20 in a tiger is a
little bit much.

Thanks
The
Stone One
Message no. 2
From: Ingmar Krusch <fastjack@******.ET-INF.FHO-EMDEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Whats the deal with these shapeshifters in the SR rulebook?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 00:39:54 +0100
Stene One wrote :
<snip The bear shapeshifter has a body and strength
> of A+2, in this case, a 10 and a 10, now do you add the essence now? or is
> the A+2 the bonus, I think that a natural strength of a 20 in a tiger is a
> little bit much.

This really isn't quite easy.
Let's look at the vampire( OH NOOOO ;). His Essence is added to his
strenght, like the stats and notes states. Under powers it says,he also
has enhanced physical attributes in animal form. I now assume that this
refferes to the strength boost only ! The same I think is true for the
shapeshifter, the A+2 bonus is 'all' he gets from his enhanced physical
attributes, even so the rules aren't clear on this one. Has anyone
paranormal annimals and can check for this ??????

Salve

Ingmar

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Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Whats the deal with these shapeshifters in the SR rulebook?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 10:50:10 +0100
Michael Vinciguerra said on 27 Oct 95...

> Ok i was just trying to create a shapeshifter npc, and the boo says
> that these things have enhanced physical attributes in animal form. Usually
> this means that they add their essence (8) to their attributes. Now lets
> take a tiger, it has a body and stength of an 8, i forget the quickness at
> this time, but hey no big deal. The bear shapeshifter has a body and strength
> of A+2, in this case, a 10 and a 10, now do you add the essence now? or is
> the A+2 the bonus, I think that a natural strength of a 20 in a tiger is a
> little bit much.

First you add the +2 to the animal's normal stats, and then you add the
Essence of the shapeshifter. So a typical tiger shapesifter would look
like this, stat-wise:

B Q S C I W
18 15x5 18 5 3 3

Pretty tough, eh? :)

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Message no. 4
From: Peter Rogers <DarkAngelI@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Whats the deal with these shapeshifters in the SR rulebook?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:41:51 -0800
I'm thinking, no.
The A+2 and A+1 indications ARE the enhanced physical attributes. Think about
it. A juggernaut has a body almost equivolent to those stats, and look at the
size of that. A human's body weight is approx. 50kg per point of body. That
would be a damn fat tiger, Gurth.
Message no. 5
From: Anders Moller Nielsen <31amn@***.AUC.DK>
Subject: Re: Whats the deal with these shapeshifters in the SR rulebook?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 07:56:11 -0800
On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Peter Rogers wrote:

> ....f that. A human's body weight is approx. 50kg per point of body. That
> would be a damn fat tiger, Gurth.....
>
In SR pedestrians got 3 in body, so acording to you they weights approx.
150kg !! I think NOT! 25-30kg is a better approx.

ANDers

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