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Message no. 1
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Where do you put the bateries?
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:59:16 -0500
On Wed, 6 May 1998 18:42:47 -0400 Joshua Bell <joshbell@**********.COM>
writes:
>Hello all Josh here,
>In my musings for today I was contemplating cyberware. I wondered how
all
>of these neat little devices got the power they need to run. Does wired
>reflexes have a battery pack? If so why isn't it listed so I as a GM
can
>rule that it shorted out at a most inoportune time <display
evil_grin>.?.
>
>I assume (rightly I hope) that certain cyberware requires a LOT of power
>such as Encephalons, C^2 decks, Cyberlimbs (gosh yes!), etc.
>
>What are your thoughs on how they are powered, Ahh an Ephipany! the
>"Nuclear Power Plant" implant Essence cost -1,000,000. <grin>...
>
>No really, would a datajack like act as an AC/DC cable?

Actually, another RPG, CyberSpace (from I.C.E.), addressed this and I
kinda like how they described it.

Cybersystems were generally powered microcells which used decaying
radioactive isotopes for power and lasted years without replacement.
(replacement can be considered part of cybermaintence [are there rules
for this?])
Also Cyberware could be powered by a solar batery linked to the system.
(not sure how to handle this ... [.1 essence? cost = 10+{100*number of
sys to be powered}?])

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)
"Parts is parts ... unless those parts is going in *my* body"

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Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Where do you put the bateries?
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 11:51:03 +0100
Alfredo B Alves said on 16:59/ 7 May 98...

> Actually, another RPG, CyberSpace (from I.C.E.), addressed this and I
> kinda like how they described it.
>
> Cybersystems were generally powered microcells which used decaying
> radioactive isotopes for power and lasted years without replacement.
> (replacement can be considered part of cybermaintence [are there rules
> for this?])

Not in FASA books, unless you like the SOTA rules perhaps. If you want an
article on cyber-maintenance, check out NERPS: Shadowlore
(http://nerps.home.ml.org).

> Also Cyberware could be powered by a solar batery linked to the system.
> (not sure how to handle this ... [.1 essence? cost = 10+{100*number of
> sys to be powered}?])

And where are you going to put the solar panels? On top of the user's
skull? :)

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Message no. 3
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Where do you put the bateries?
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:04:17 -0500
On Fri, 8 May 1998 11:51:03 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>Alfredo B Alves said on 16:59/ 7 May 98...
>> Actually, another RPG, CyberSpace (from I.C.E.), addressed this and I
>> kinda like how they described it.
>>
>> Cybersystems were generally powered microcells which used decaying
>> radioactive isotopes for power and lasted years without replacement.
>> (replacement can be considered part of cybermaintence [are there rules
>> for this?])

>Not in FASA books, unless you like the SOTA rules perhaps. If you want
an
>article on cyber-maintenance, check out NERPS: Shadowlore
>(http://nerps.home.ml.org).

I guess I must of been thinking of R2's vehicle maintenance rules ...
hey, perhaps they can be used here... after all the Street Sam, depending
on the cyber he's got, needs to get a tune-up and an oil change doesn't
he? (nyuck nyuck)

>> Also Cyberware could be powered by a solar batery linked to the
system.
>> (not sure how to handle this ... [.1 essence? cost = 10+{100*number of
>> sys to be powered}?])
>
>And where are you going to put the solar panels? On top of the user's
>skull? :)
>
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<SNIP>

Nah, It'd be like the chloroform bioware someone came up with, cept you
wouldn't be green ... of course, no shyness allowed (Which I believe is a
direct quote from the chloroform bioware thingy)

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

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Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Where do you put the bateries?
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 12:45:30 +0100
Alfredo B Alves said on 20:04/ 8 May 98...

> >And where are you going to put the solar panels? On top of the user's
> >skull? :)
>
> Nah, It'd be like the chloroform bioware someone came up with, cept you
> wouldn't be green ... of course, no shyness allowed (Which I believe is a
> direct quote from the chloroform bioware thingy)

LOL! Chloroform bioware is bioware that knocks you out, right? :)

You must mean chlorophyll, which is the green stuff in plants that allows
them to perform photosynthesis. Not sure if it'd be an effective source of
electrical power, though... there is electricity involved in
photosynthesis, but I don't think it can be readily tapped into to power
other things than photosynthesis.

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Message no. 5
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Where do you put the bateries?)
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 18:23:39 -0500
On Thu, 7 May 1998 04:21:28 +0200 Cobra <wgallas@*****.FR> writes:
>>>In my musings for today I was contemplating cyberware. I wondered how
all
>>>of these neat little devices got the power they need to run. Does
wired
>>>reflexes have a battery pack? If so why isn't it listed so I as a GM
can
>>>rule that it shorted out at a most inoportune time <display
evil_grin>.?.

Actually on a run, a GM did turn off a char's cyberware ...

>>Actually, if current technology has been refined to a high degree in
SR,
>>then there could be two probable possibilities derived from the
electricity
>>produced by the human body.Standardly, neurons produce a charge of 700
>>milliwatts in a non-active state. If all the standing eletrical energy
>>produced by the neurons of the body could be concentrated, it could run
a
>>small lightbulb. Perhaps in the future they have figured out how to
amplify
>>this.
>>Another possibility would be the eletrical gradient across the cell
>>membranes of all living cells. They are currently developing
microscopic
>>mechanisms which utilize this electric potential at the AMBRI institute
in
>>Austrailia. If this mechanism could be maginifed, it could also be a
source
>>of plausable and natural eletrical current.

>Anyway, that makes a big problem with SR technology. If you can *easily*
>produce energy to use most cyberware without having to refuel every day
or
>week, you should use that same energy production for vehicles... That
means
>that vehicles should have a lot more potential than it is stated in SR
>(they're not very different from now...).
>I don't think we could find a way to compromise those two facts...
>Cyberware is here for... Ambiance... And the average tech is here to
give
>more *realism*.

I think it's a matter of making the cyberware effecient enough (through
perhaps superconductive wiring among other things?) to require little
energy to power it. On the other hand, the vehicles' efficiency has
improved but not so much that it runs on the batteries that power your
watch ... If you want give cyberware a PF rating and economy stats and
then make the char recharge their cyber as neccesary.

>That makes me think about an evolution of SR world... Magic drains
energies
>from astral quite easily and with great potential. If you magic and
>technological devices to harvest those energies, that can give you great
>possibilities.
>
> - Cobra.

Ick... maybe with say the electricity or fire elemental effects ... ya'd
need to figure out a way to 1) regulate the current so it's steady and at
the currect voltage, amperes, and ohms, and what not; 2) dissipate any
excess energy/heat ...

Lastly: no, you can't quicken a nuclear elemental spell to poweer your
cyber ... :P~

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

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