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Message no. 1
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: While you were out ...
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:19:07 -0500
Dual natured & astral beings can not pass through Wards without defeating
/ dispelling them, right? So what about the body of an astrally
projecting mage? It still has that little astral umbilical cord doesn't
it? IIRC, it is actually stated in the BBB or Grimmy that the body can
pass through such barriers ...

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

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Message no. 2
From: walker of shadows <wkr_shadows@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: While you were out ...
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:10:34 PDT
>Dual natured & astral beings can not pass through Wards without
defeating
>/ dispelling them, right? So what about the body of an astrally
>projecting mage? It still has that little astral umbilical cord doesn't
>it? IIRC, it is actually stated in the BBB or Grimmy that the body can
>pass through such barriers ...
>
>D.Ghost
>(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

Not Quite. Dual Creatures can do it because they are physically in
astral space at the same time as their physical bodies pass through the
ward, therefor dispelling them.

If an astrally PROJECTING mage tries to go through a ward, they then are
stopped, as they have Separated their physical self with their Astral
body.

A mage astrally PRECIEVEING probably could get through, but it might
hurt.



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Message no. 3
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: While you were out ...
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:03:44 -0500
On Tue, 19 May 1998 11:10:34 PDT walker of shadows
<wkr_shadows@*******.COM> writes:
>>Dual natured & astral beings can not pass through Wards without
defeating
>>/ dispelling them, right? So what about the body of an astrally
>>projecting mage? It still has that little astral umbilical cord doesn't
>>it? IIRC, it is actually stated in the BBB or Grimmy that the body can
>>pass through such barriers ...
>>
>>D.Ghost
>>(aka Pixel, Tantrum)
>
>Not Quite. Dual Creatures can do it because they are physically in
>astral space at the same time as their physical bodies pass through the
>ward, therefor dispelling them.
>
>If an astrally PROJECTING mage tries to go through a ward, they then are
>stopped, as they have Separated their physical self with their Astral
>body.
>
>A mage astrally PRECIEVEING probably could get through, but it might
>hurt.
>
>
>
>Walker Of Shadows
<SNIP Sig>

Sorry, for the confusion ... I meant the meat body of the projecting mage
... can the meat body of a projecting mage pass through a Ward, enter a
Hermetic Circle / Medicine Lodge, etc ...?

BTW, Dual Natured criters don't automatically dispell wards (AFAIK), they
can attack them and "kill" them and the same with percieving mages ...

Side note: When a Shapeshifter attacks a Ward or other astral entity
while in human form, does it use the animal form damage since "its
alternate form is always visible [on the astral]"?

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

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Message no. 4
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: While you were out ...
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:07:33 -0400
Once upon a time, walker of shadows wrote;

>Not Quite. Dual Creatures can do it because they are physically in
>astral space at the same time as their physical bodies pass through the
>ward, therefor dispelling them.

They must defeat the barrier the same as an astral entity would.

>If an astrally PROJECTING mage tries to go through a ward, they then are
>stopped, as they have Separated their physical self with their Astral
>body.

Astral magicians must defeat the barrier to pass. Their meat body
wouldn't.

>A mage astrally PRECIEVEING probably could get through, but it might
>hurt.

An Astral Perceiving magician is considered Dual Natured and must
defeat the barrier as such.

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Message no. 5
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: While you were out ...
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:39:26 EDT
In a message dated 5/19/98 7:11:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

> Side note: When a Shapeshifter attacks a Ward or other astral entity
> while in human form, does it use the animal form damage since "its
> alternate form is always visible [on the astral]"?
>
In a word, Yes..

-K

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