From: | "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU> |
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Subject: | Why there are not r |
Date: | Thu, 6 Jan 1994 22:31:27 -0800 |
>>Whoa, there!
Never! I have a rep to upkeep.
>>I'm just old enough to remember "Route 66", and I watched Charles
>>Kuralt "On The Road" religiously, and my family and I did a lot of
>>road trips when I was a kid. Living on the road is indeed possible,
>>and has a distinct feel to it unlike any other.
Nice TV shows and memories, but they do not make up a domain. Thing do not
live on the road in the literal sense. They passby.
>>Of course, that's America, not the UCAS, CAS, and the various other
>>nations making up the North American Continent in 2055. Maybe the
>>open roads aren't as open as they used to be; maybe petrochem is
>>prohibitively expensive and electric cars don't have the range; maybe
>>no one travels anymore, that kind of thing dying out after the big
>>boom of the 1950s.
Another reason why road could not be a domain. Only in the US, and only in
the mid to late 20th century did people "live" on the road. That's just not
long enough to form a mythology for magical purposes. I know you're going
to bring up Gater as an Urban Totem, but Gater existed as an Rural Totem before
the city tales that allowed it to become an Urban Totem. This does not apply
to Road.
> Nice idea, but it don't work.
>>Sho it do!
No, it don't :)
Ryan Grey said:
>> After reading the responses to my original post, I feel I should
>>make a few points. I don't believe that addingn Road Spirits oversteps
>>rules; as was pointed out, the rules were meant to be bent.
The rules were not ment to be bent. They were ment to be a guide. You can
change them, but bending them implies that your pushing toward's breaking
a rule you hold to be correct.
>>And I'm not bored with the spirits given in the book; on the contrary, I
>>find the whole idea one of the most fascinating aspects of the game. Most
>>Native American mythology holds that ALL things are invested with a spirit,
>>so why not roads? I mostly refer to the major highways that cross the
>>continent.
Because we are not talking about Native American mythology, we are talking
about SR Magic. They are not the same. In fact they can be very different
at times. Following those rules, a domain is a rather general place that
creatures live, work, and love in. Nothing lives, works, or loves on the
Road like they do in7 the domains in the book. As I said before, a road is
just a feature of the area it is in.
>>The Grimoire (SR II) gives me all the justification I need:
>>"The Spirits of Man flourish where human love, liberty, and the energy
>>of life abound" (pg. 101).
I could say the same thing about an RV, but you won't catch any shaman's
summoning Car Spirits or hearth spirits in them. They summon the spirits
of the area around the RV. Same thing would apply to the Road.
>>There's always been a mystique in American
>>culture about the open road, and, as quoted elsewhere: "Myth is as good
>>as reality"
Only to a point. Accordding to myth, you can turn lead to gold with alchemy,
but nobody in SR can.
>><G>. And if all that doesn't impress you either, stick to
>>the game rules maxim: If you don't like it, DON'T USE IT! <G>
Doesn't apply to SR discussions. This is about theory, not what will or won't
work in who's game.
Granite said:
>>I must disagree with this particular attempt at reasoning..There are many
>>many people who spend large portions of their lives on the open road
>>[Truck drivers,those without a true home who hitchike as a way of trying
>>to find something better, If you are like me a long road trip end up with
>>me sleeping in my vehicle on the side of the road-and if you have done
>>much traveling you will have seen this alot, those that have retired and
>>spend much of their time in an rv tooling around and sleeping on the side
>>of the road or at rest stops and such].
Truckers are on the road because it is the fastest way to get their cargo
from one place to another.
Wanderers traveled along trails before there were roads. Does that mean that
there are trail spirits that are different from the plain, or forest the trail
travels through?
People sleep by the side of the road because a) they were too tired to make it
to the next time, or b) they wanted to be out in nature.
Retired people in RVs are going from one place to another and the road is the
fastest way to get there.
Excellent try gentlemen. But in the end it just doesn't work.
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