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Message no. 1
From: Shadowrunner <nocturnal@*******.NET>
Subject: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:10:44 +0000
Sommers wrote:
>
> At 09:01 AM 6/29/98 -0500, D.Ghost wrote:
> >On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:04:07 -0400 Sommers <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
>
> >I never had the first ed Grimmy so ... 1rst ed Phys Ads could get up to
> >+4 Increased Intiative?
>
> I don't have it either but I scanned through it a few times at a used book
> store. The part that I remember, and therefore what I use, goes something
> like this:
>
> Level Cost Reaction Initiative
> 1 1 +1 +1d6
> 2 2 +2 +2d6
> 3 4 +3 +3d6
> 4 8 +4 +4d6
>
> That means that a physad who gets to grade 2 can go as fast, if not more
> so, than a sam with Wired 3. Of course, most would take longer since you
> don't get very far if you're just fast. You have to do something with that
> speed, so the players do tend to take other powers too.


Speaking of speed... can wired reflexes and vehicle control rigs operate at the same time?
Or
would I have to use a reflex trigger and deactivate the wired when I wanna use the Rig?
Message no. 2
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:15:10 -0500
>
> Sommers wrote:
> >
> > At 09:01 AM 6/29/98 -0500, D.Ghost wrote:
> > >On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:04:07 -0400 Sommers <sommers@*****.UMICH.EDU>
> >
> > >I never had the first ed Grimmy so ... 1rst ed Phys Ads could get up to
> > >+4 Increased Intiative?
> >
> > I don't have it either but I scanned through it a few times at a used book
> > store. The part that I remember, and therefore what I use, goes something
> > like this:
> >
> > Level Cost Reaction Initiative
> > 1 1 +1 +1d6
> > 2 2 +2 +2d6
> > 3 4 +3 +3d6
> > 4 8 +4 +4d6
> >
> > That means that a physad who gets to grade 2 can go as fast, if not more
> > so, than a sam with Wired 3. Of course, most would take longer since you
> > don't get very far if you're just fast. You have to do something with that
> > speed, so the players do tend to take other powers too.
>
>
> Speaking of speed... can wired reflexes and vehicle control rigs operate at the same
time? Or
> would I have to use a reflex trigger and deactivate the wired when I wanna use the
Rig?
>
VCR bonuses only applie when rigging. So basically if your PC is fighting
he uses Wired, if he's flying,driving etc etc he uses the VCR bonus.
The two don't overlap.


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Message no. 3
From: John Dukes <dukes@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:43:41 -0500
>
>Speaking of speed... can wired reflexes and vehicle control rigs operate
at the same time? Or
>would I have to use a reflex trigger and deactivate the wired when I wanna
use the Rig?
>

What do you mean? If you are using a VCR you are jacked in and not using
your meatbody... so you cant use WR while using a VCR... although I suppose
if you concentrated on your meatbody (with the +8 modifier) you could use
your wired reflex system. Just dont get too jumpy and yank your datajack
cable out.

-Teeg
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:16:35 -0400
At 10:43 AM 6/30/98 -0500, John Dukes wrote these timeless words:
>>
>>Speaking of speed... can wired reflexes and vehicle control rigs operate
>at the same time? Or
>>would I have to use a reflex trigger and deactivate the wired when I wanna
>use the Rig?
>>
>
>What do you mean? If you are using a VCR you are jacked in and not using
>your meatbody... so you cant use WR while using a VCR... although I suppose
>if you concentrated on your meatbody (with the +8 modifier) you could use
>your wired reflex system. Just dont get too jumpy and yank your datajack
>cable out.
>
Ewww.... Just had a nasty thought...

Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:

Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own flock of
drones :]

Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]

Hehe!

Bull
Message no. 5
From: John Dukes <dukes@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:06:05 -0500
>Ewww.... Just had a nasty thought...
>
>Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
>well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:
>
>Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own flock of
>drones :]
>
>Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]
>
>Hehe!
>
>Bull

Problem is that you cant control drones other than captains chair mode
without at least a level 1 VCR. Its an interesting idea, but a pure rigger
would tear his ass up.

-Teeg
Message no. 6
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:18:15 -0400
At 01:06 PM 6/30/98 -0500, John Dukes wrote these timeless words:
>>Ewww.... Just had a nasty thought...
>>
>>Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
>>well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:
>>
>>Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own flock of
>>drones :]
>>
>>Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]
>>
>>Hehe!
>>
>>Bull
>
>Problem is that you cant control drones other than captains chair mode
>without at least a level 1 VCR. Its an interesting idea, but a pure rigger
>would tear his ass up.
>
Well, I kinda assummed the VCR was a given :]

And that's why the money is an issue... Between Wired 3 (Or even 2), a VCR
(At least 2), and cranial RCD, your're looking at a LOT of essence loss...

Hmmm...

Maybe a RIgger/Sammy Cyberzombie?

<grin>

Maybe I'll infect him witha free spirit too! ((Oh wait, That on'e been
done <big grin at Jak> ))

Anyways, I gotta get this all outta my system now... I leave for Origins
in 24 hours, so I need to get my mail in while I can...

Try not to miss me too much while I'm gone :]

Bull
Message no. 7
From: John Dukes <dukes@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:54:32 -0500
>And that's why the money is an issue... Between Wired 3 (Or even 2), a VCR
>(At least 2), and cranial RCD, your're looking at a LOT of essence loss...
>
>Hmmm...
>
>Maybe a RIgger/Sammy Cyberzombie?

Cyberzombieism and rigging dont mix. There is some sort of penalty for
"getting lost in the machine" or something.

Get a rating 1 VCR, Wired Reflex 3, Datajack, and go for an external RCD.
More efficient.

-Teeg
Message no. 8
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:10:47 EDT
In a message dated 6/30/98 12:11:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
chaos@*****.COM writes:

> Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
> well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:
>
> Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own flock of
> drones :]
>
> Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]
> Hehe!

(sigh) Careful Bull, you are wandering into the domain of the
Munchichimunchichiohsosoftandcuddlely....

-K (who knows, because members of -this- list proclaimed him as such for
suggesting long time ago)
Message no. 9
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:23:09 -0400
At 04:10 PM 6/30/98 EDT, K is the Symbol wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 6/30/98 12:11:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>chaos@*****.COM writes:
>
>> Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
>> well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:
>>
>> Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own
flock of
>> drones :]
>>
>> Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]
>> Hehe!
>
>(sigh) Careful Bull, you are wandering into the domain of the
>Munchichimunchichiohsosoftandcuddlely....
>
>-K (who knows, because members of -this- list proclaimed him as such for
>suggesting long time ago)
>
Yeah, but since I'm the GM, it's ok :] (Hey, I didn;t say I wanted to PLAY
this guy :))

Oh, by the way... I hated the Monchichi's :] But nice little reference
there :]

Bull
Message no. 10
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:12:24 +0100
At 30-Jun-98 wrote Bull:



>Granted, this would take mondo cash and probably at least Beta ware, as
>well as some kick ass skill to deal with the penalties, but:

>Decker with Wired 3 and Cranial Remote Deck... Sammy with his own flock of
>drones :]

>Hmmm, I think I just got a new NPC :]

Heheheh I know a certain PC of mine which had a similiar combo synaptic 2 VCR3
and intenal RD :)
Bul btw you have her old sheet :) I now who I mean :)


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Message no. 11
From: Nexx Many-Scars <Nexx3@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Wired reflexes & Vehicle control rigs
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:48:19 EDT
In a message dated 98-06-30 16:11:36 EDT, you write:

> (sigh) Careful Bull, you are wandering into the domain of the
> Munchichimunchichiohsosoftandcuddlely....
>
> -K (who knows, because members of -this- list proclaimed him as such for
> suggesting long time ago)

You're not a munchkin, K.... just criminally insane.

Nexx, who has no room to talk

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