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Message no. 1
From: david lowe <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:48:16 -0800
Has anyone else seen the WoTC commercials. I've seen three different ones
in the last week or so, all on Comedy Central (that's an all comedy cable
network here in the US). There stupid, but slickly produced. Having a
little experience in the media industry, I know that it takes a few dollars
to make something like that, and a few more to buy airtime. Mebbie our WA
based Wizards have more cash than we think?

D.

David R. Lowe (dlowe@****.com)
Photography/Graphic Design

"I can't help it, I'm a greedy slob. It's my hobby."
-Daffy Duck
Message no. 2
From: Skye Comstock <bilbo@****.NWLINK.COM>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 10:58:02 -0800
>Has anyone else seen the WoTC commercials. I've seen three different ones
>in the last week or so, all on Comedy Central (that's an all comedy cable
>network here in the US). There stupid, but slickly produced. Having a
>little experience in the media industry, I know that it takes a few dollars
>to make something like that, and a few more to buy airtime. Mebbie our WA
>based Wizards have more cash than we think?

Yeah, I saw one on MTV (gasp) the other day... It was proclaiming
Magic as an intellectual sport and seemed to appeal to geeks and such. :)
About 2-4 months ago, there were commercials on the local radio station
that I listen to; talking about Magic, the tournament center, and the
Pro Tour. People seemed to be pretty amazed when I told them this. I
think WotC has a lot more money than people think. I have a hard
enough time imagining how much FASA is actually worth, WotC must be
worth... uh... a lot? Went past their big new center in the U District
a few days ago, didn't go in, but it looked expensive and from the
fliers I've got from them, the inside sounds really expernsive. (The
Battltech Simulator camps and Magic "classes" probably help:])

-Skye
Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:55:49 +0100
|
|Has anyone else seen the WoTC commercials. I've seen three different ones
|in the last week or so, all on Comedy Central (that's an all comedy cable
|network here in the US). There stupid, but slickly produced. Having a
|little experience in the media industry, I know that it takes a few dollars
|to make something like that, and a few more to buy airtime. Mebbie our WA
|based Wizards have more cash than we think?

There's a BIF thread on these adverts and how stupid they are in
Rec.games.frp.misc....

Take it there. I really don't give a **** about WotC....
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Message no. 4
From: Swordman <swordman@******.NET>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:45:54 -0500
Skye Comstock wrote:
>
> Yeah, I saw one on MTV (gasp) the other day... It was proclaiming
> Magic as an intellectual sport and seemed to appeal to geeks and such.

But did you keep and eye on MTV?
I coaught the last clip of a Magic tornament. They guy who one looked
like this seruously ripped dude babes all over him like he was Adonis or
something, then I find out he's one of the finalists in this Magic
Tournament, sponsered by MTV.
The world just got a little darker.
Message no. 5
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:17:46 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-18 04:05:21 EDT, swordman@******.net (Swordman)
writes:

>
> But did you keep and eye on MTV?
> I coaught the last clip of a Magic tornament. They guy who one looked
> like this seruously ripped dude babes all over him like he was Adonis or
> something, then I find out he's one of the finalists in this Magic
> Tournament, sponsered by MTV.
> The world just got a little darker.
>
>
Normally, I wouldn't even give Magic any sort of notification, but to this
one response, I can say.

DUH!!!

MtG has been building in popularity and economic (if such a thing is
possible) power for some time now. The only thing about that game that I had
to respond to most of the players here at one time was ....

"Gee, now that I know whom the real powergamers/munchkins are."

I am not saying that everything about MtG is bad, but it did help a lot of
people look at things differently.
-Keith
Message no. 6
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:48:15 +0200
>MtG has been building in popularity and economic (if such a thing is
>possible) power for some time now. The only thing about that game that I had
>to respond to most of the players here at one time was ....
>
>"Gee, now that I know whom the real powergamers/munchkins are."
>
>I am not saying that everything about MtG is bad, but it did help a lot of
>people look at things differently.
>-Keith
>
OK as an earnest role player and a fanatical card gamer I would like to know
where the Magic=Munchkin link even begins. Please.

>>>>>>BRUCE
"Dont hit me, I just drive the car!"
-Sharkboy, our Rigger to peeved razorgal<<<<<<<
Message no. 7
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: WoTC on TV (was: Re: WOTC/FASA)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:05:45 PDT
>OK as an earnest role player and a fanatical card gamer I would like to know
>where the Magic=Munchkin link even begins. Please.

It comes from the only _real_ way to win against a hardcore M:tG player:

Spend him to death.

That's right, you need to spend more on your deck than he/she/it does.
Some strategy in choosing the cards is helpful, but the main thing is
to buy all the really expensive stuff.

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