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Message no. 1
From: The Annihilator <bwells@***.ETC.BC.CA>
Subject: Y=Nuyen
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:01:29 PST
'Lo all,

Ok..kinda stupid but kinda good... Several people have made up
excuses for leaving out a Y for nuyen. It's been buggin' me ever since.I'm
not to sure on the IBM keyboards but on the Mac, if you hold down the
'option' key and press 'y' you get a 'Y' this is a bout as close as we'll
ever get isn't it?

Later,
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Message no. 2
From: Kymberly Acton <uslae@***.MCL.UCSB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:54:51 -0700
From: The Annihilator <bwells@***.ETC.BC.CA>
Subject: Y=Nuyen

>'Lo all,
> Ok..kinda stupid but kinda good... Several people have made up
>excuses for leaving out a Y for nuyen. It's been buggin' me ever since.I'm
>not to sure on the IBM keyboards but on the Mac, if you hold down the
>'option' key and press 'y' you get a 'Y' this is a bout as close as we'll
>ever get isn't it?

Depends on the font yer using on the mac- i download the net at school,
run home and view my mail in a liesurely way. Im reading this in "Meath",
option y makes a box. (guess the Celts didn't want much to do with
Nipponese currency) But in geneva, helvetica, and standard fonts you get
the yen symbol.
(i was reading your message very perplexed...seeing y,Y,y,Y....
"what, WHAT! They're the SAME!.....oh, my view font...")

Im posting because im curious what the IBM ffolk see, too.
K'mon you guys, whats your two 4? <wow, the =Y= i typed at home
became a 4!!>

***Update*** I compose at home and post at school- yesterday i _thot_
i saw the =Y= at school, using the Telnet default font, but i don't.
Nope, option Y on Telnet sends me to the next page.....So for some
systems, even Mac, =Y= is the best available. See what happened to an
imported =Y=.

What is your mail system, Annihilator?

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Message no. 3
From: Quid Non <jdfalk@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 23:45:07 -0500
Due to the nature of Internet EMail, we're stuck with using the
letter Y (or =Y=, or some such) -- the technical reason is that, for the
most part, the 'net doesn't support characters above ASCII value 126, and
any systems which support the character you're all talking about maps it
to a character usually above ASCII 200.
If you don't understand that, let me put it a simpler way: you
can't do it, 'cause we're stuck with normal characters. Things gotten
using Control, Alternate, Option -- whatever your system uses -- won't
work over the 'net, even for people with the same computer.

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Message no. 4
From: Twist <winterh@******.EMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:15:46 EDT
>
> >(i was reading your message very perplexed...seeing y,Y,y,Y....
> >"what, WHAT! They're the SAME!.....oh, my view font...")
>
> >Im posting because im curious what the IBM ffolk see, too.
> >K'mon you guys, whats your two 4? <wow, the =Y= i typed at home
> >became a 4!!>
>
> I can inform you that this IBM-user only sees "y"-s, both small type and
> capitals. No yen-signs anywhere. And what's the deal with the 4 (four)
> anyway?
>

Are you talking mainframe IBM or PC?
I've seen the yen symbol pop up on my PC a few times when I get flipped
to graphics characters. I haven't been curious enough to look it up in
my manuals to find how to reproduce it on purpose though.


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Message no. 5
From: Michael Garoni <Michael_Garoni@****.INTERSOLV.COM>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 09:54:00 LCL
Ascii 157 (Decimal) will give you a symbol (At least under OS/2 Windows). On
an IBM/Compaq compatible, (You need a numeric keypad for this trick) hold down
the <Alt> key and type 157 on the numeric keypad, then release the <Alt> key.
This should give you the appropriate symbol. (Can't guarantee it - two separate
tables gave me different ANSI codes for it and I actually found it by
experimenting).

Obi Wan
:]'Lo all,

:] Ok..kinda stupid but kinda good... Several people have made up
:]excuses for leaving out a Y for nuyen. It's been buggin' me ever since.I'm
:]not to sure on the IBM keyboards but on the Mac, if you hold down the
:]'option' key and press 'y' you get a 'Y' this is a bout as close as we'll
:]ever get isn't it?
Message no. 6
From: Quid Non <jdfalk@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:03:18 -0500
On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Gian-Paolo Musumeci wrote:

> Hrm. For Mac users, I guess you could write a program to trap for =Y= in your
> mail program and make it display an Option-Y. Dunno if the IBM font set
> supports Yen signs.

It does, but (like I said) its way up there in the ASCII set.
And does it really matter _that_ much?
Message no. 7
From: The Annihilator <bwells@***.ETC.BC.CA>
Subject: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 16:21:05 PST
>
>'Lo all,
>
> Ok..kinda stupid but kinda good... Several people have made up
>excuses for leaving out a Y for nuyen. It's been buggin' me ever since.I'm
>not to sure on the IBM keyboards but on the Mac, if you hold down the
>'option' key and press 'y' you get a 'Y' this is a bout as close as we'll
>ever get isn't it?
>
>Later,

Ok...I feel _REAL_ stupid.....di'int know that it wouldn't work through
email...sorry....
___________________________________________________________________
|>>>>>[The Annihilator]<<<<< |-- Y'know? With all the
cordless |
| Lane Wells | phones out there...someone should|
| bwells@***.etc.bc.ca | make a phoneless cord.... |
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-- Silly (insert_yur_name_here), Trixx are for kids! --
Message no. 8
From: A cohort's CoHort <cohort@******.CONNECTED.COM>
Subject: Re: Y=Nuyen
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:54:09 -0800
On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Twist wrote:
> Are you talking mainframe IBM or PC?
> I've seen the yen symbol pop up on my PC a few times when I get flipped
> to graphics characters. I haven't been curious enough to look it up in
> my manuals to find how to reproduce it on purpose though.
>
The yen symbol is ascii code 157 (IBM PC Extended ASCII). The only way
to reproduce it on a pc is to hold down the "Alt" key, and type the ASCII
code, then release the "Alt" key.
And to send it, you have to ask someone else, since I cannot except in
EMACS, and I read mail in PINE.

CoHort@*********.com
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