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Message no. 1
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:27:27 GMT
I came across this on the WWW just now and found it scarily realistic. And
having been called a geek by some random Coalville imbread last night I
guess I am officially a nerdy little wierdo :)>

Anywhose, see how mant of these apply to you.

You Might be a Gamer if...

* losing your dice bag would be a serious financial blow.
* you could paper you bathroom in character sheets.
* you could paper your bathroom in different versions of just ONE character.
* you are unable to walk past the latest TSR supplement without leafing
through it, even though you know it's going to be bad.
* you have more entertaining "No-shit,-there-I-was-in-a-game" stories than
you do anecdotes about your family.
* you talk about your characters as if they are real people.
* you alternate between referring to your characters in the first and the
third person.
* and none of your friends gets confused.
* you've ever spent a significant fraction of your life modifying game rules
that you didn't like
* and, as soon as the system worked to your satisfaction, discarded it.
* when someone says "The blue books," you don't automatically picture the
kind that they give you during a college final exam.
* you worship idols of Gary Gygax in your basement.
* you burn Gary Gygax in effigy in your back yard.
* you will not buy comic books with the Dragon Strike (tm) logo on the back.
* you've ever seen the old AD&D tv series.
* you're still reading this list.
* you hang out with people you actively dislike because they give good
role-play.
* you've ever gotten into a screaming match over something that happened in
a game
* (You are so dead! I am not dead!)
* you've ever neglected to buy the new edition of your favourite game
because you already have three.
* you have more than one photocopied bootleg of a gaming text.
* you keep old characters around just in case someone might run that system
again. (Never mind that its TS: SI)
* You knew what I meant when I said TS:SI.
* you have a PhD in manipulating point systems to the best effect, even
though you failed high school geometry.
* you can consume your body weight in junk food in one gaming session.
* you consider Altoids, Salt-&-Vinegar chips, and blue Teeni Hugs a balanced
diet. (or even an acceptable combination.)
* you have been known to drive to far away places where you paid enormous
amounts of money for the privilege of sleeping on floors, eating crap,
buying little pewter statues of Gandalf, and meeting dozens of psychopathic
members of the alternate (or similar) sex who will follow you around for
months, merely for the pleasure of playing with gamers you don't know.
* and then signed up en masse with all of your friends to play in games with
game masters who you've known since high school.
* you own your own weight in gaming books.
* the owners of local hobby stores take your checks without ID because they
know where you live.
* you can do AD&D money conversions in your head.
* you could wallpaper you bedroom in Dragon Mirths (tm).
* you consider the demise of "What's New With Phil & Dixie" a blow to great
literature.
* you consider the resurrection of "What's New With Phil & Dixie" the
redeeming feature of Magic: The Gathering.
* you consider the 20th century a state of mind.
* you have a random NPC generator, written in BASIC, designed to run on the
Trash-80 or the Commodore 64.
* you've ever designed your own character sheets.
* you can be more that three NPCs at the same time without generating more
than reasonable confusion in your players.
* you have ever played a Dwarven character who did not have "axe" or
"beard"
ANYWHERE in his or her name.
* you've ever tried to explain gaming to a school counselor, parent, or
other PW/OC (Person With/Out Clue).
* you've suceeded.
* you've played Talisman more than once.
* you've finished a game of Talisman.
* more than once.
* you're STILL reading this list.
* you can quote extensively from the Wandering Damage Tables.
* you've mistaken a d12 or a double d10 for a d20 while playing AD&D and had
a THAC0 low enough to hit the 8HD monster, anyway
* you understood that.
* you carry AD&D insurance.
* your AC is so low that even you can't hit yourself.
* an 87 point Balrog is no big thrill anymore.
* you bring your dicebag even to diceless roleplaying events.
* you've ever discovered, after gaming with your significant other, that you
like their character better than you do them.
* you have friends or acquaintances who regularly refer to you as "Og." (Or
something similar.)
* you've ceased responding to your birth name.
* you spend more money on dice than on food.
* you sometimes forget what century this is.
* your first response to any frustrating situation is, "I bash it with my
axe."
* you know a lot of gaming jokes that used to be funny once.
* your friend(s) who does not game feels very left out of all of your
conversations.
* you have more gaming books than the local hobby store.
* you've discovered that spare dice make good beanbag filler.
* you knew that that last question was a ringer: who has more dice than they
can use?
* you have a copy of "Dark Dungeons" kicking around somewhere because a: you
thought it was funny b: your parents got concerned that you were living in a
fantasy realm.
* you're sort of disappointed that you haven't reached the level where they
start teaching you the real spells (as described in the above "Dark
Dungeons" pamphlet) yet: You're sure you must be a high enough level.
* you've been gaming for more than half of your life.
* you still laugh when someone says "Hey, Dave, I think the barbarian in the
corner wants another beer."
* the phrase "Collect Call of Cthulhu" brings back fond memories.
* you can quote the whole "Trolls! Mutants! Trolls! Mutants!" strip from
"what's New With Phil & Dixie."
* you knew a female gamer once.
* you were a female gamer once.
* you tend to play characters as different from you in race, religion, sex,
sexual orientation, and what have you as possible, just to confuse your
friends.
* (New Englanders only) You were able to find stuff at "Flock, Stock, and
Barrel."
* you've been known to have in-depth conversations about the relative merits
of Champions, V&V, Marvel, and DC heroes
* ignoring the fact that all superhero systems are intrinsically sucky.
* you like one of the above systems enough that you yelped when I called
them all, "sucky."
* you actually bought TSR's "Dungeoneer's Survival Guide" when it first came
out.
* you've ever tried to discover the strengths and weaknesses of a
hemophiliac werewolf.
* someone is attempting to explain the floorplan of a building to you and
you immediately start thinking in terms of 10X10 squares.
* or 6'x6' hexes.
* your first though upon walking into a friend's domicile is to reflect on
where you'd put the machine-gun nest.
* you frequently gripe that the Tech Level of Earth isn't advanced enough.
* you've thought of four or five additions to this list.

It's like the writer of this list has known me my whole life :)>

Phil

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Message no. 2
From: Ashley Griffiths dagdamor@***********.co.uk
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:46:31 +0100
Its all true.

i can't beleive it.

But then again he missed out.

You are so convinced of a conspiracy of the dice against you that you burn
all the dice you can find whilst laughing maniacally.


Dagda Mor
What was once proved is now only imagined
Message no. 3
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:20:32 -0400
At 05:27 PM 6/18/00 +0000, Phil Smith wrote:
>I came across this on the WWW just now and found it scarily realistic. And
>having been called a geek by some random Coalville imbread last night I
>guess I am officially a nerdy little wierdo :)>
>
It's pretty bad :]

My favorite from one of the lists out there is the:

* ...dealers at Gen Con know you by name...
* ...and it's your first time there!

I have a much larger version of this up on my web page, some sections of it
obviously designed for specific game systems...

Anyone got ideas for adding Shadowrun versions of the list to this?

Bull

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Message no. 4
From: Iridios iridios@********.net
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:18:58 -0400
Phil Smith wrote:

> You Might be a Gamer if...

<snip>

> * you've ever seen the old AD&D tv series.

If they're talking about the animated series, it's making a comeback!
On FoxKids. Guess WoTC is pushing every angle.

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Message no. 5
From: Achille Autran aautran@*************.fr
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:11:47 +0200
From: "Phil Smith" <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>

<MEGA POWER SNIP>

> * you've thought of four or five additions to this list.

Many more, I have to admit, but the list will probably be glad to avoid
them...
;-)
Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:50:30 +0200
According to Bull, at 21:20 on 18 Jun 00, the word on the street was...

> I have a much larger version of this up on my web page, some sections of it
> obviously designed for specific game systems...
>
> Anyone got ideas for adding Shadowrun versions of the list to this?

* ...when the GM says "Roll Perception" you know they mean Intelligence.
* ...99% of what you know about economics comes from reading Corporate
Shadowfiles.
* ...you know what Corporate Shadowfiles is.
* ...you own a copy of Corporate Shadowfiles.
* ...you also own a copy of the original Into The Shadows.

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Message no. 7
From: Dan Grabon djmoose@******.kornet.net
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:22:15 +0900
On 6/19/00 5:50 PM, Gurth at gurth@******.nl wrote:

> * ...99% of what you know about economics comes from reading Corporate
> Shadowfiles.

Nah, I'd give it 50%. The other 49% comes from the Neo-Anarchist's Guide to
North America! If it weren't for that book, I would've never understood the
Pareto principle in my college econ course. :)

(or was it NAGRL? oops :) )

-moose

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Message no. 8
From: James Mick sinabian@********.net
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:22:49 -0400
Actually this raises a question for me. (Probably a newbie question...) Are
there actual Shadowrun gaming conventions? And how close would they be to
the basic Ohio Valley area. I live in West Virginia so I can't travel out
too far, until I get more money at least... But I'd really like to get into
one of these just to see what's available and whatnot...

>* ...dealers at Gen Con know you by name...
>* ...and it's your first time there!
Message no. 9
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:23:55 GMT
>From: Bull <bull@***********.com>
>Anyone got ideas for adding Shadowrun versions of the list to this?

My thoughts were
* You think of racism in terms of orks and trolls not ethnic origins.

Phil

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Message no. 10
From: Fyre - AKA Colin fyre@******.demon.co.uk
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:20:32 +0100
In article <000801bfd94d$23e23640$a65193c3@********>, Ashley Griffiths
<dagdamor@***********.co.uk> writes
>Its all true.
>
>i can't beleive it.
>
>But then again he missed out.
>
>You are so convinced of a conspiracy of the dice against you that you burn
>all the dice you can find whilst laughing maniacally.
>
Or:

* You calculate which of your dice is most lucky and mark it.

* Talked using your character's accent in a normal conversation.

* Without realising.

* Know what LARP means.

* Have taken part in one.

* You bought kit especially for it.

* You didn't need to.

* You think 'the master' in the first series of Buffy: The Vampire
Salyer was a Nosferatu.

* You bitch about how staking a vampire should only paralyse it.

* You think Cuthulu is just misunderstood.

* You've made up yourself as a character.

* You gave yourself Intelligence 6.
...

This is fun...
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Message no. 11
From: Jalong1@***.com Jalong1@***.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:22:56 EDT
> I have a much larger version of this up on my web page, some sections of
it
> obviously designed for specific game systems...
>
> Anyone got ideas for adding Shadowrun versions of the list to this?

Blasted, you've forced me outta my Lurking..

Well, then let's see if I can come up with any original ones...

*The DLOH knows who you are.
*You own a copy of 'Prime Runners'
*You've actually made use of 'Prime Runners'.
* ...and it was in a game instead of as a tableleg, door stop etc..
*You purchase sourcebooks from other game systems based upon their usefulness
to your Shadowrun campaign.
*Someone mentions Bugs, and your first thought is of Insect Spirirts.
*You know all the items, (and release dates) planned for Shadowrun by heart.
*You're prepared for the Crash of '29.
*You know what the term THWAP means.
*You've been THWAPed.



Jalong1
Message no. 12
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:57:51 -0400
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:22:56 EDT Jalong1@***.com writes:
>
> *The DLOH knows who you are.
>
WOO HOO! That's me!
:)

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Message no. 13
From: vocenoctum@****.com vocenoctum@****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:19:36 -0400
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:22:56 EDT Jalong1@***.com writes:
> *You own a copy of 'Prime Runners'

Yep

> *You've actually made use of 'Prime Runners'.

Yep :-)

> * ...and it was in a game instead of as a tableleg, door stop etc..

Yep, the Gates kid AND Teachdaire, I'll have to dig it out and see who
else is in there useful...
(sure, Teachdaire's only action was to scream like a girl and drop to the
ground in a fetal position when the rounds started flying, but I liked
it...)



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Message no. 14
From: Spike spike1@*******.co.uk
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:20:15 +0100 (BST)
> *You know what the term THWAP means.
> *You've been THWAPed.

Nahhh... Those last two could be true for the majority of usenet as well...
THWAPping may be more prolific here, but it wasn't invented here.
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Message no. 15
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:13:17 -0700 (PDT)
> * ...when the GM says "Roll Perception" you know
> they mean Intelligence.
> * ...99% of what you know about economics comes from
> reading Corporate
> Shadowfiles.
> * ...you know what Corporate Shadowfiles is.
> * ...you own a copy of Corporate Shadowfiles.
> * ...you also own a copy of the original Into The
> Shadows.

Does it count if you're using your Fiance's copy?
Going to be "our" copy soon enough...
Oh, wait, this is supposed to be a joke isn't it? Doh!

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Message no. 16
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
<MEGA POWER SNIP>
>
> > * you've thought of four or five additions
> to this list.
* and you got the inspiration from your own life.

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Message no. 17
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT)
> You are so convinced of a conspiracy of the dice
> against you that you burn
> all the dice you can find whilst laughing
> maniacally.

Actually Chris had a bunch of dice that rolled bad, so
he took one and smashed it to bits with a hammer with
all the other dice around it in a circle and he rolled
good for the rest of the night with the other dice...
the weird part is not that he did it, but that it worked.

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Message no. 18
From: Raveness Ravensbane ravenessravensbane@*****.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
You might be a gamer if...
* you visit Chicago and only call it Bug City
* on vacation, you take pictures of back alleys and
scenery to use in your gaming sessions.
* you classify every person you meet by their
meta-type.
* you hit someone with a spike high heel and ask them
what they think the damage rating would be.
* your vaccum cleaner tinkles because there are at
least 2 complete sets of dice in there.
* the living room of your new apartment is completely
decorated with posters from FASA.
* your maid of honor asks what to get you for your
wedding and you tell her that dragon or wizard lamp
would look great with the gaming posters.
* you get the shakes when you think about the
possiblity of not gaming


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Message no. 19
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:21:50 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Saturday, June 24, 2000 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: You might be a gamer if...


>> You are so convinced of a conspiracy of the dice
>> against you that you burn
>> all the dice you can find whilst laughing
>> maniacally.
>
>Actually Chris had a bunch of dice that rolled bad, so
>he took one and smashed it to bits with a hammer with
>all the other dice around it in a circle and he rolled
>good for the rest of the night with the other dice...
>the weird part is not that he did it, but that it worked.
>
A friend of mine bought about a hundred little dice from somewhere, and
every time one rolled badly, he would squeeze it in a vise until it
shattered. The theory was Darwinian selection would give him a handful of
super-dice in the end. I'm not sure if it worked, I moved away before the
experiment was completed.
Message no. 20
From: Ahrain Ahrain-Drigar@**********.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:24:55 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: Raveness Ravensbane <ravenessravensbane@*****.com>
Subject: Re: You might be a gamer if...


> > You are so convinced of a conspiracy of the dice
> > against you that you burn
> > all the dice you can find whilst laughing
> > maniacally.
>
> Actually Chris had a bunch of dice that rolled bad, so
> he took one and smashed it to bits with a hammer with
> all the other dice around it in a circle and he rolled
> good for the rest of the night with the other dice...
> the weird part is not that he did it, but that it worked.

My wife will buy a new pack of dice and put them in a bag under her pillow.
She won't use them until then, they don't "feel" right. Scarry thing is,
I've seen her roll 9 double oughts (100 on percentile for those die
illiterates) IN A ROW with a set of dice "vibed to her", and not a one with
others......until vibed that is.....wierd.

Ahrain
Message no. 21
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:39:41 +0200
According to Raveness Ravensbane, at 12:13 on 23 Jun 00, the word on the
street was...

> > * ...99% of what you know about economics comes from
> > reading Corporate
> > Shadowfiles.
>
> Does it count if you're using your Fiance's copy?
> Going to be "our" copy soon enough...
> Oh, wait, this is supposed to be a joke isn't it? Doh!

Only in part. About 99% of what I know about economics, comes from reading
Corporate Shadowfiles...

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Message no. 22
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: You might be a gamer if...
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:08:18 -0400
At 01:22 PM 6/19/00 -0400, James Mick wrote:
>Actually this raises a question for me. (Probably a newbie question...) Are
>there actual Shadowrun gaming conventions? And how close would they be to
>the basic Ohio Valley area. I live in West Virginia so I can't travel out
>too far, until I get more money at least... But I'd really like to get into
>one of these just to see what's available and whatnot...
>
Origins, in Columbus, would be your best bet :]

For more info on Shadowrun and Origins, hit
http://bull.dumpshock.com/origins2000.html

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From: James Mick sinabian@********.net
Subject: "You Might Be A Gamer If..."
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:35:51 -0400
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... You STILL watch Excaliber every time it comes on.


Er, ummm...so what if you happen to own the movie?!? Hehehe...

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Message no. 24
From: Spike spike1@****.freenet.co.uk
Subject: "You Might Be A Gamer If..."
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:48:45 +0100 (BST)
And verily, didst James Mick babble thusly...
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Errr... You're still sending as HTML, y'know...

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