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From: Steven Mancini <mancinis@******.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: None
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 92 07:31:17 -0500
>>>>>[ Okay, to some this will seem like really old stuff. But I
figure I wanna drop it on to the net and get a discussion about
it. And hopefully, maybe even a little enlightenment. Today's
subject of inquiry... Quickenings]<<<<<
-Minotaur

Since I am not sure where to begin, I'll just yank open
the Grimoire and begin to babble, see if this makes any sense to you
folks out there. I am typing a line at a time to make responding
a bit easier...

***Theory: Quickenings are not made for people, they are made for places...

Okay I know a barrage of you will disagree, but let's
see if I can show you my point of view...

"The spell is given a permanent 'circuit' into astral space that keeps
it running until it is broken..."
This is from the book (p. 25), and may be jumping to some wrong
conclusions here but:
How can ya drop one of these on a mundane friend (Which several
folks have talked about on this net) since he/she is but an 'shadow' on
the Astral plane?
How can ya attach something like a spell to someone who supposably
cannot be affect from the Astral Plane?
All the work is done on the Astral, the mage assenses, the circuit
exists in the Astral, etc..
Since spells are tangible things in the astral plane, and mundanes
are merely shadows, how can a solid be attached to a shadow? (Unless
of course your Peter Pan and someone is sewing your shadow back on.)


Likewise, if I remember correctly, a mage/shaman who is not projecting
has not astral existence either since other projecting mages cannot hit them
unless they are using locks, etc as a 'grounding source'.
So then, what happens to the mage? He stops accessing the Astral
plane and he is a shadow. Does the quickening lose 'touch' with the 'physical'
astral projection of the mage, or does it in effect become a grounding
source since it link the physical mage to the astral plane?

One final point, minimal at best, the example in the book is Rikki
chucking the spell into the room, not on anyone...


Okay, for many this may be a scary concept. (I know a few of my
players will really begin to sweat since they are looking forward to
removing the Spell Locks for nice safe Quickenings) But I am just not
sure this power was meant to be used on people.

I realize in the book it says a Quickening allows a magician to
make a sustained spell permanent w/o use of a spell lock. And that is a
really big argument against my theory, but I am just wondering if anyone
else has ever run along this same line of thinking, that Quickenings aren't
suppose to be drapped on your Magicians, but rather in areas....

Okay enough babbling. See what happens when you get your undergrad
degree in Philosphy? Ya take simple things and over-examine them
till ya can barely understand them anymore....


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