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From: "Misli, gammi gra'dil, Strygalldwir" <CBICKFOR@******>
Subject: RE: Quickening, only on areas
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 92 10:29:00 EST
>From: Steven Mancini <mancinis@******.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
> it. And hopefully, maybe even a little enlightenment. Today's
> subject of inquiry... Quickenings]<<<<<

>***Theory: Quickenings are not made for people, they are made for places...

> "The spell is given a permanent 'circuit' into astral space that keeps
>it running until it is broken..."
> This is from the book (p. 25), and may be jumping to some wrong
>conclusions here but:
> How can ya drop one of these on a mundane friend (Which several
>folks have talked about on this net) since he/she is but an 'shadow' on
>the Astral plane?
> How can ya attach something like a spell to someone who supposably
> cannot be affect from the Astral Plane?

To take this logic to a ridiculous extreme, no one can be affected by
spells since they are all manipulations of Astral energy that attack the mundane
by his shadowy presence. After all, dermal or worn armor doesn't help against
mana spells, since they are grounded into the body through the astral plane...
Quickening merely makes a particular flow of astral energy (read spell)
last forever. Since spells can effect people, making the spell permanent should
still effect people. Forever.
The reason for not being able to cast spells on people while Astral
is a game balance one. Imagine if you will Joe Samurai. He is wandering
around, and suddenly he starts getting blasted by spells. The mage is astral so
all he can do is sit there and take it. Either the player of the GM will go
nuts if this happens, so it's not allowed. Or so I think. You can read an
aura while astral, and you can cast spells on someone who is astral (either
perception or projection (I think)), but you can't hit a mundane, because they
are a shadow on the astral plane normally? What about the aura? It can be
examined by an astral mage. Makes no sense to me.

> Likewise, if I remember correctly, a mage/shaman who is not projecting
>has not astral existence either since other projecting mages cannot hit them
>unless they are using locks, etc as a 'grounding source'

This is only an astral mage who cannot hit a non-projecting mage. A
mage with a physical presence can still nail you with a spell (cast through
the astral plane).
In a unrelated way, a ritual sorcery team can still focus on you,
regardless of your astral presence. Of course, they still need to find you.

> So then, what happens to the mage? He stops accessing the Astral
>plane and he is a shadow. Does the quickening lose 'touch' with the 'physical'
>astral projection of the mage, or does it in effect become a grounding
>source since it link the physical mage to the astral plane?

I would think the second, since a Quickening is (or so I thought) a
spell lock that can have a force of greater than 1, and doesn't need an
actual physical focus.

> One final point, minimal at best, the example in the book is Rikki
>chucking the spell into the room, not on anyone...

No, a close reading will reveal he had a target. Who or what it was
I have no idea, but he did have a target, and it states in the Grimore that
for area effect spells, quickening should have a specific target, to use as the
target number for the spell.
Just my thoughts.
Skrag.

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