From:	"Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject:	More Quikening?!?!?!?!
Date:	Tue, 26 Jan 93 07:32:30 CET

Hi again,
It seems we must continue this never-ending battle on quickening. I would
like to thank all of you who responsed to my post on grounding throught
quickening. All arguments were intelligent and civilized.
I must however maintain my contention that it can be done. The reason being.
1) Despite what everyone has said, no one has touched, or even mentioned, the
fact that the Grimoire says the only what to destroy a quickening is through
astral combat or dispelling. Grounding is never mentioned in the context
of quickening in the rules. Since grounding through a focus destroyes that
focus, that same would be true for quickening, but grounding is not a way
to destroy a quickening.
2) The rules never state that quickening is a focus, but the grounding rules
are entiled "Attaking through a Focus".
3) The Tom Dowd says excuse is weak and feabile for several reasons.
A) It was fine when there was just Grimoire I, but if it was Shadowrun fact
it would be in Grimoire II! Since Grimoire II never says what Dowd said,
what he said can be nothing more than a punt.
B) He states that it takes a physical spell to ground through a quickening,
but the reason it takes a physical spell to ground through a focus is
because you can only attack unliving targets with a physical spell. If
the spell is quickened on a person, it reasons that a mana spell would
work on that quickening.
C) He says that area effect spells would only hurt the possessor of the
quickening, but following the quickening is like a focus line of thought
there is no good reason why the spell wouldn't explode outward like it
does with a focus. I think he was just trying to keep a little game
balance.
4) The now imfamous Nightfox argument. A quickening is a spell and you can't
cast a spell at a spell.

Sorry boys, but this one doen't fly,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker