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From: Robert Link <link@*****.PHYSICS.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Deadly +
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 93 14:04:02 EDT
(Sorry about that last; the mailer was misbehaving.)


Well, it depends. Dave's been talking about SR1 & 2. Now, armor and
deadly+ staging makes a BIG difference under sr1, and I think the
question being asked is: what happens if it stages above deadly?
Under sr1, you'd peel armor. According to this, you not only CAN'T
peel armor, but you get no advantages by getting MANY successes.
Under SR1 (and our rule when rolling down was:
D++==>D+==>D==>S==>M==>L==>0.), deadly+ staging was VERY handy.
What advantages do you get? Granted, he will take a D wound. BUT!
If he's wearing butch armor, then he can probably escape unscathed.
You're saying that there's no advantage to merely rolling a D, as
opposed to a D+++++. There SHOULD be. What should it be?

I'm not convinced that there should be any advantage to rolling a
D++++ as opposed to just a D. Our gm allows extra successes to make
the shot harder to dodge using combat pool, but when it is determined
that the shot has hit, damage is staged down from D.

Example: (from last night's game):

I shoot at the european gargoyle with my trusty Predator II (damage
9M):
our system:
Roll firearms 6, combat pool 6 (average 10 successes).
Gargoyle resists damage of 9D with his 10 body+2 threat rating.
Result: no damage (probably--he was rolling for 2's)

D++++++ system:
Roll firearms 6, combat pool 6 (still 10 successes).
Gargoyle resists damage of 9D+++ with his stats given above.
Result: Gargoyle takes Moderate damage (average) or Serious, if he
rolls just one success below average. And I have a second shot left
this action. . .


The point is that if I'm shooting with a pistol against something
relatively tough, there comes a point when it doesn't matter how
skilled I am; the pistol round simply *won't* penetrate. If you allow
staging past deadly, then it doesn't matter what kind of weapon you
are using; you can kill anything just by racking up four more
successes on your firearms test than it does on its body test. With
your combat pool working for you that isn't too hard to do. . .




-rpl

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