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From: Ed Matuskey <MATUSKEY@***.EDU>
Subject: Mage-slavers, Round 2 (ding!)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 14:35:35 -0700
Whoa: I'm engaged in a full-fledged rebuttal (and subject heading) war, when
I'm blindsided by the sudden appearance of Doctor Doom. Ugh, my head. But I
won't let them stop me: I'm fighting for the freedom of spirits everywhere! :>
I'm going to dismiss Carter's statements that my statements are pure
speculation, since he has very little actual proof to refute me with (of
course, I have very little to back my claim up with, so we're even).
I will take the time to speak out against Doctor Doom's allegations that
elementals aren't treated as slaves. You make many good points, Doctor, but
I have to disagree with your definitions: I may go so far as to say that
elementals are treated as freer slaves than has been recorded in history, but
they are still bound to another's will.
You said that magicians don't have to use all of the services: so? Most
usually do: I have yet to see any mage who hasn't gotten their money's worth
from the spirit they've summoned.
They are "free" to roam around when the magician doesn't need them: so they
have a long leash: they still have to answer when called, and do whatever they
are told, no matter how existence-threatening.
They should feel grateful for the chance to visit our world: what have they to
enjoy? They're wrenched from their own plane (or created from the astral,
take your pick), brought here to serve another, and then, once their services
are complete, provided the mage doesn't add on more services with another
ritual, they are sent back whence they came. Gee, sounds wonderful.
Allies (back to Carter): okay, so some eventually grow to like their master:
not all will: are they to be punished because a few others found a "good"
owner?
Oh, and being a decker has nothing to do with this discussion. I don't traffic
in the use of sentient creatures for my own purposes, so my conscience is
clear. Is yours, Jason? You steal too, or do you not remember that mage's
house you guys raided?
-Ed
-Highlander
Woozy, but still on his feet. HELP!!!!

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