From:	"Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject:	Killing Fist?!?!
Date:	Mon, 19 Apr 1993 14:40:14 -0700

Patric Rogers wrote:
>>how about having Unarmed Combat concentrations (read: martial arts)
>>do (1/2 str)L physical damage for "free"? it makes some sense. or maybe
>>just allow Unarmed to do (1/2 str)L physical damage anyway. ok, so it
>>takes something away from the physads and chromers with bone lacing, but
>>not much. read the fiction in the front of the Black Book (SRII) and
>>see that Nameless wastes the phyad (broken neck) during a fight. (i'm not
going
>>to buy into "so much damage that it overflowed and killed her" from a
>>fist fight under the current rules.) comments?
Remember the Deadly Plus discussion from just alittle while ago. I think it
covered killing with your hands pretty well. You can either use extra success
afther stun damage start doing physical on top of the stun, or someone's
following the damage scale method. In both these cases it avoids making hands
do physical damage. I'm against that because a) it steals the physical adept's
thunder and b) why Martial Arts concentration only. I can give my character
Unarmed Combat 6 and call him a Martial Arts master. Remember that
concentrations are limits on general skills, not enchancers.

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker