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From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Skill: Round 5 Ding, Ding!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 14:52:46 -0700
Hi Boys and Girls,
Were back for another round. Remember the rules.
This is Nightstalker's "How to Reduce your Skill Points" course. Hold on it
will be quite a ride. Comments will be made about all skills. I will either
not dispute them, Hold them in Reserve, or Default them. Also thank Crossfire
for an assist.
Points that I do not dispute are ones that seem reasonably possible to me and
are not covered by something else. Points Held in Reserve means I'm spectial as
to either the skill or the level. Defaulted skills will be skills of such a low
level that they could very easily be defaulted to from characteristic or other
skills. Note that much of this is conjecture on my part, but you asked for it.
Smile, were having fun.

Note: Everything is now out of order, but still there.

Projectile Weapon 2 ( A persons got to have a hobby )
Throwing Weapons 2 ( ditto )
2 Points each for 4 Points
Total Skill Points: 4

Stealth( Wilderness ) 3
Concentration, 2 points
Total Skill Points: 6

Athletics 2
2 Points.
Total Skill Points: 8

Biotech( First Aid ) 3
Concentration, 2 points.
Total Skill Points: 10

Computer 4 ( Have to make money somehow )
Electronics 2
6 Points.
Total Skill Points: 16

Etiquette( Military ) 3 ( JROTC had to be good for something )
Leadership( Military ) 3
Pair of Concentrations, 4 Points
Total Skill Points: 20

Computer Theory 3
3 Points
Total Skill Points: 23

Physical Sciences( Physics ) 3 ( What I am getting a degree in )
Concentration, 2 Points.
Total Skill Points: 25

Demolition 1 ( Ya don't want to know! )
Unarmed Combat 1 ( I'm not too bad )
I'm not saying you can't have a skill at level one, just that something at that
level could easily be just a default. In SR rules your much more likely to beat
someone up or used demolitions by defaulting than by using a level 1 skill.
Hence I said Default. 0 Points.
Total Skill Points: 25

Firearms 4
Actually after looking through the contacts, I found that both the Street Cop
and the Corporate Security Guard has firearms of 3! Are you a better shot than
a police officer? And I'm talking about live targets. 4 Points for now.
Total Skill Points: 29

Negotiation( Bargain ) 3 ( Ah.. the joy of collecting )
Guess what? I'm a collector, too. Comic books is my hobby. My question is how
do you think you compare to a Media Producer. They have level 4. I'm still
thinking default. Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 32

Car( Passenger Vehicle)3
Everybody drives cars. The car skill IMHO reflects your ability to do high
speed chases and dangerous maneuvers. Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 32

Computer B/R 2 ( It is amazing how much you can learn taking )
Electronics B/R 2 ( things apart and by trial and error )
Very good, points released. 4 Points
Total Skill Points: 36

Military Theory 3 ( This is the fun stuff )
The Mercenary Archetype in SR has Military Theory of 2. Do you think you know
more than the average Grunt? Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 39

Sociology( History ) 4
I've read many books on history, warfare, and a ton of other subjects. That
would not necessarily give you skill points, especially in a system like SR.
Reguardless, at level 4 you should be able to teach the subject in a college
setting. I'm still thinking at least a lower level, if not outright default.
Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 39

Interrogation( Interview ) 2 ( A short lived career move )
Sounds pretty good. Points returned. 2 points.
Total Skill Points: 41

Portacam 4 ( This goes with the above one )
Which are you better at Portacam or Physics? Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 41

Tai Chi 3 ( Ah.. exercise )
Crossfire might be incorrect at thinking of Tai Chi as being a formal martial
art, but doesn't it include many similar elements? Much of martial arts is not
combat skills, but control of body and mind. That is what Tai Chi is correct?
Taken as a Shadowrun Unarmed Combat Specialization, the limitations of Tai Chi
would be it could be used to exercise only. Sounds kinda weird, but it works
for me. Thus it still gives you Unarmed Combat 1 and is a specialization.
1 Point.
Total Skill Points: 42

Etiquette( Sciences ) 2 ( An interesting skill needing to be improved )
I know each subculture has its own etiquette skill, but does talking to
scientist mean a whole different way of talking or just knowing all the big
scientific terms? Etiquette skills should only be broken down so far.
Points Held in Reserve.
Total Skill Points: 42

Acting 2
I really couldn't say, but I still think Default. Still I give you the points
2 Points.
Total Skill Points: 44

Biology 1
If bits and pieces of knowledge made up a skill point, than everybody would have
tons of level 1 skills everywhere. Without stronger reasons, I still say
Default. 0 Points
Total Skill Points: 44

Spanish 3
Sign Language 2
Morse Code 1 ( More fun than I can stand )
Error on my part. Spanish (as all skills) is a specialization. Thus it is
worth 1 skill point. That is also why in SR Sign Language and Morse Code would
have to be at least 3. I'll still say the last two are worth 1 point. 2 Points
Total Skill Points: 46

Please return your comments to my new comments. Taken as presently denoted, you
are looking slightly more skilled than a Priorty A skill character, but you are
much more diverse than the average person or beginning shadowrunner. You also
don't have any really high skill levels. If there is any fault to the SR
character creation system it is that high level skills are just as cheap as low
level skills.

See Ya in Shadows,
Jason J Carter
The Nightstalker

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