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From: Christopher Bellovary <bellovar@***.WISC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Electro-mag
Date: Sun, 9 May 1993 22:11:50 CDT
> Wrong!!!

Mr. NightStalker, I must disagree with you here.

> Electro-Magnification, even in cybereyes, will proclude the use of magic. The
> reason being auras. Even though you paided perfectly good essense for those
> electrically maginified cybereyes, you can't cast spells because you can no
> longer see an aura.

So, who ever said you needed `eyes' to see an aura? Personally, I think it
would be a great story to have a blind mage who can function simply because
he can see in the astral plane. You are making an assumption that is not
necessarily valid. Who says a blindfolded mage cannot see when he astrally
percieves?

> Electronic Magnification works by having the base image that comes into the
> eye broken down into components and then having a computer enlarge the proper
> pieces, do some graphical smoothing, and then transfer it to the brain in
> place of the real image. You now have a magnified picture of your target.

Now what does the low light retinal modification do? Essentially the same thing
a computer processes the image and amplifies the light. Different effect, but
much of the same process. Remember, the combat mage himself has, as it says
in the book, CYBEREYES with low-light and thermographics. Not even retinal
mods, but full cybereyes.

I am sure that he _can_ indeed see in the astral plane. After all, if he
couldn't, they would most likely have made him a combat magical adept instead.

> Unfortunately your cybereyes cannot see into astral space, and thus cannot
> see the targets aura. Thus you don't recieve a magnified picture of the
> targets aura. In fact you get NO picture of the targets aura. If you put
> electronic image maginifaction in your cybereyes, all images will be routed
> through them. You now cannot cast spells at all!

Again, why do you say that, if you paid the essence for it, it is considered to
be part of `you'. If not, and we treat them like sensors, then things like
invisibility would not work against people with cybereyes. The computer would
process the image as it really is, and that invisible mage would be quite
visible to you. However that is not the case - due to the fact that you paid
your essence. For a moment - let us look at what you have here - if nothing
else, and we have a non-cybereye - this would _still_ work when the vision
was not magnified, as there would be no need to process the image. I can't
come up with anything to refute the combat mage's cybereyes though. Do you
really believe that archetype can neither see nor go astral, let alone being
unable to cast spells? I highly doubt that.

> This answers the age old question, "Why are their both Electronic and Optical
> available?" The answer: "So mages can get op mag and still cast
spells."

I disagree. Optical magnification has a lot of benefits over electronic mag.
For one, they are cheaper and easier to find. For another, your buddy with
the electronic mag might not be able to read that sign out there, or make out
what type of helicopter that is, but you can see the sign says "warning
explosives" and that the helicopter is a fully decked gunship heading this way.

> See Ya in Shadows,
> Jason J Carter
> The Nightstalker

This time I get to play the role of your critic. =)

-- CrossFire --
Chris Bellovary

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