From:	Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject:	Re: Life, Magic, and Space
Date:	Fri, 22 Oct 1993 13:20:41 +0930

>
> Why is it that just because life creates somthing, that automaticly
>(automagically?;) limits it to a biosphere? Matter creates gravity, and its
>not limited to a matteesphere (oooh, no phlames here :). In fact, its
>infinite. SO why couldnt a life generated field like astral energy be
>inifinite ins scope, but rather weak the farther from life you get.
>
Not quite... the biosphere IS the life (biosphere = Area where life is)

> This isnt as far fetched and idea as you might think. There are
>theorys that say that 'space' (ie 3-D space that we know and loath) is created
>by the exsistance of matter, and that out at the edge of the universe, space
>is literlly being created out of 'nothing'.
>
Really?? I thought they'd left it at the stage where they showed how the big
bang occured. Could you point out where I could find out more about these
theories??

> Course, others have said this same point (and probobly better).
>
>SO
>
> Is there anything in the official rules that is against the idea of
>astral space as its sortof stated in _Mage: the Acension_ ?

Yeah, it's stated repeatedly that nobody can astrally project into earth orbit,
and those few magicians who take the semi-ballistics go mad if they try any
magic which goes outside the ship.

> Ie, it exist everywhere, but the farther from the earth you go, the
>more powerful the nasties running around get, and the less likely you are of
>returning home.
> It could be argued that noone (that we know of) in shadow run who has
>tried to enter 'space' has been powerful enough to fight off the nasties that
>jump you as soon as you leave the protective shell of our mother earth. Who
>knows? Maybe Dragons go for joy rides to Mars. Have wild parties there,
>dressed as little green men. Maybe a few supra old elves with like initiate
>50+ can jaunt around there.
Hmm... This sounds like the idea of the void elemental (from NAGEE??). But that
doesn't explain why people casting spells into space go mad.

> Thus, nothing would prevent you from casting spells in space. BUT as
>soon as you became astrally aware, you have to fight off a slew of bad things
>that are hanging around just waiting for you to come out of your shell. If
>you fail, you do any of the normal expected things (die, go nuts, get
>possesed, etc etc.) IF you win tho... you get to run around for 6 hours.
>
> Comments?
>
Just those above...

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Robert Watkins
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