From:	The GREAT Cornholio <mruane@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring
Date:	Tue, 8 Nov 1994 18:04:22 -0700

On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Debbie Giesbrecht wrote:

> Ok. I was right. It is not dangerous to summon anything below your
> charisma. I personally think this rule sucks. From what I've seen in
> my games so far, elementals are seriously gross. They cannot be
> harmed by bullets or other missile weapons, anyone who attacks them
> only gets willpower dice with no combat pool, and the reaction and
> attacks of these creatures are very powerful. A mage can summon as
> many elementals as they have charisma right? This means that a
> starting mage can have as many as 6 elementals "hanging out" just
> waiting for that one service "Kill those guys."
Remember it costs Force* 1000 nuyen for materials for ONE elemental. If
a CHA 6 mage summons up 6 force 4 elementals, that's 24,000 nuyen. Plus
the type of elemental is important. A bonfire or a flaming brazier is
need for an elemental of fire (okay, you light the brazier on fire, and
woops! The building's fire suppression system goes off, ruining all your
expensive materials!). Air and Earth are relatively easy, but you have
to take a drive out to the beach for water elementals.

And if you're having problems with such creatures, then use the same
versus the runners. Or give them 3 phys adepts with weapon foci to kick
the crap out of the elementals. Spirit bolt does wonders, too.

>
> Elementals are hostile to the summoner. Why isn't it a resisted test?
> Perhaps something like this:
Not really. Elementals, at least I consider them, really dim. Unless
they have already been summoned byt he same mage, they wouldn't know much
about who was summoning them. And if the mage fails to control the
elemental, the elemental goes nutso being out of its environemt. Oops.
>
> First the mage must get the elemental to appear:
>
> Mage Elemental
>
> Dice: Conjuring skill Dice: Force
> Target: Force of elemental Target: Conjuring skill of mage
>
> Whomever has more successes wins. No successes, mage eats drain and
> no elemental. One success, the elemental appears. Each number of
> successes rolled over the elemental is the number of services the
> elemental performs.
>
> Now the mage resist drain. Use that silly chart in the black book for
> the starting point.
>
>
> Dice: Charisma Dice: Force
> Target: Force of elemental Target: Conjuring skill of mage
>
> For every two successes over the mage the elemental stages up the
> drain on the chart.
>
> I'm going to try it. What do all you veterans think?
>
> Debbie
>
Go for it.. You ARE the ruler of your world, and you can try out
anything that works. And if it DOES work well, let us know. I'm
interested. :-)

Mike aka Spellslinger