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From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Allies for Phys Ads (needs new title)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:19:28 +0200
> Was that in HTH or in a straight out fight? 'Cause in a straight out fight,
> then sure, the sammies will blast the phys adepts because they are (and
> here's that dammned word again) generally faster. And speed kills (sounds
> like an RTA - that's Roads and Traffic Authority for those non Australians -
> TV ad :-)). In HTH only OTOH...

Would you care to explain to me why PAs are better suited for HTH than
cybered dudes ? I am afraid I dont get it.

> > They aren't better at it, they're different at it. Never seen a phys ad so
> > scared as when he was facing a cybered troll with a combat axe. Oh yeah,
> > and the phys ad had a level 3 weapon focus (katana, was there any doubt
> > there?).
>
> OTOH, if he were a troll phys adept with a level three weapon focus axe, then
> who would be scared?

My point exactly, HTH is a matter of reach (and a reasonable skill) nothing
else. So as I see it anyone can make a troll, take a reach 2 weapon and
beat the crap out of anything. You dont have to be a PA hell you dont
even have to be cybered.

> > An interesting thought that is...anyone else out there got ideas on phys ad
> > loss of magic and whether or not they need geasa?
>
> There's nothing on it in the NAGA?

PAs can get "discount" by getting geasa. I remember how much
"discount", but
it goes something like this. If you take a location geasa (can use said ability
only in a city) for your incr. reflexes +3 power then you have to pay for
it only 5 points instead of 6 (or something like that).

> > 1) Bob, could you perhaps post the relevant bits of your
> > sammie that would have `eaten up' both Phys Ads together?
> > That would give some firm basis for comparison, for the
> > disbelievers.
>
> For the record, I was thinking of a phys adept with something along the
> lines of:
>
> Armed Combat 4
> Pole Arms/Staff 6
> Halberd 8

What would stop a sammie from geting the same thing ?

> With around 3-6 extra dice on the halberd, which was a moderate (3-6 depending
> on resources) level weapon focus.
> And if he were, as luke mentined, a Troll, then things would be getting
> really nasty.

And again a cybered troll sammie could do the same thing (he wouldnt have
the focus, but he could have a ton of bioware to make up for the loss).

> But, I still think:
>
> 1) More phys adepts will be HTH specialists than will not be

I dont agree. You know its probably the mental image your group has
about PAs - you must tend to think of them as Zen dudes that meditate
all day and then get up to kick some butt with their martial arts :)

> 2) Phys adepts are better in HTH than sammies (usually)
> 3) On an overall basis, phys adepts do not turn out as effective as
> sammies (mainly due to the speed thing)

Your damn right.

> 4) Phys adepts make better specialists than sammies.

Mainly because of their "buy skill dice" power.

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