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From: Gary Carroll <gary@****.COM>
Subject: Re: SV: Re: Trolls/Dermal Armor
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:56:01 -0700
>On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Lindblom Fredrik, Training wrote:
>
>> >recoil comps, hit someone with a burst of 15 (and in that
>> >armour they ain't jumping out of the way), and start scraping
>> >them off the walls.
>>
>> The mil-spec armor suits count as hardened armor (i.e. vehicle
>> armor) if I remember it right (hell, I should have all the
>> rulebooks HERE instead if at home :-). Which means: All weapons
>> with less basic (before burst/auto modifiers) power than the
>> armor rating, literally, bounces off. With APDS, of course, only
>> half the armor counts,
>The Digital Mage replies:
>Actually, against Hardened Armour APDS are useless (well almost),
>they do *not* half armour, in fact their *power* is reduced
>by half (I think). Check out the firearms against vehicles bit
>in SR2 combat.
>This is also the main reason why anyone would buy Gel armour and
>use it on anything less than armour with Ballistics:6 (so they
>can stop Light pistols, as well as HOs, dead). Have some guy
>with a gel treated Armour Jacket (5/3 count as hardened) get
>shot by someone with a Ares Pred II firing APDS (normally 9M
>and halve armour). As the gel armour is hardened the APDS is
>at half Power ie 5 (if the GM is generous and allows to round
>up) this Power only equals and does not *exceed* the armour
>jacket's 5 ballistics, and so the bullet just bounces off :)

Well I don't think that is what they mean. I think what it
is saying that APDS treats Hardened Armor as Normal armor
with the power of the bullet halved.
So your 9M APDS round would hit the Gel Armor 5/3 and would
reduce the bullet to a measly 4M (it still penetrates because
the base damage is greater the the balistics level of the
Gel so now the 4M will not penetrate the Normal Armor
so it is now 0M - doing blunt trama. (but now you have a section
of the gel armor that is useless/destroyed...) (this is how
it works IMHO)

Thanks Gary C.

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