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From: Adam Getchell <acgetche@****.UCDAVIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Banshee Bird Strikes
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:07:48 -0700
On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, WILLIAM FRIERSON wrote:

> Well, the barrier is going to give. Just like a fence or stone wall

Yes, the barrier will give. However, it still messed up the flight
characteristics and slammed a pressure wave down the intake nozzles which
caused a flame-out in the engines. A flying vehicle still obeys the laws
of aerodynamics, after all.

> And Vectored thrust vehicles don't generate lift by forward airspeed. They
> generate lift by vectoring thrust down towards the ground in excess of their
> weight. I imagine that the intakes are armored and multiple, as those of

> They don't generate lift via airspeed. They are not aerodynes.

An aerodyne also does not generate lift via airspeed. It generates lift
from air being blown over the curved upper surface by the engines. It
may gain additional lift from airspeed, but aerodynes can hover quite
well, thank you.

And as a matter of fact, this is how I see the Banshees working. Using
raw engine power would be extremely fuel-prohibitive, especially if you
want to tack on extra weight like armor.

Using the aerodyne concept would increase fuel efficiency, especially in
conjunction with Ground-Effect. This is how I viewed these machines as
working. They certainly do have the power to maneuver for sprints on raw
engine power, but remember that thrust being used for lift is unavailable
for flight. The less thrust used in lift, the better.

> Yes, they have. But when has a bird strike crippled or destroyed an
> armored fighting vehicle? I know the bird wouldn't scratch the paint
> on an APC. Unless you shot it out of a cannon at close range. And it
> still wouldn't affect the operation of the vehicle.

A 2 kg bird approaching at Mach 1 is a fair imitation of cannon shot.

Armored vehicles don't travel all that fast compared to aircraft, so your
comparison is invalid.

> armored vehicles. And that's what the Banshee is. An armored fighting
> vehicle.

An armored _flying_ fighting vehicle that obeys aerodynamics.

> William Frierson Internet: WILL1AM@*****.asu.edu

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