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From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: SR's Poor Magic System, IMHO!
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:49:09 +0200
> > But there [should] be someway to keep them playable, I mean they managed it
> > with hermetics and shamans, A mage believes that the only way he can
> > conjure a spirit is through long rituals while a shaman believes he can
> > just conjure one up in a second [...]
>
> But nature spirits and elementals have many differences. There is no
> way, using the `explanation' WYTIWYG to neatly explain why a shaman
> couldn't summon up spirits that were elementals, or vice versa.

You are wrong because hermetics that have managed to overcome the
block do summon spirits. Living proof are The Ways and The Paths of
Tir NaN Og as well as that Zessler (whats his name) dude from Prime
Runners. I agree that this is not something for players to try at
home :) but its nevertheless possible.
BTW Shamans could theoretically (but only theoretically, apart from
NPCs and weird cases like the ways and the paths) summon elementals
too.

> > This might sound prety rediculus, but just stop for a seconds and think about
> > the common cultural background this gives us. We all expect to live in a 3D
> > environment, we expect glass to be transparent, [...]
>
> ... we can't move through physical objects, we can't fly, ...

Yes, but the average John Doe has always assosiated flying with
magic. Think of all the witches with their broomsticks. And astral
projection as a part of urban lore, definitely allows passing through
walls.

> BTW Jani, I only quoted the parts of your message I disagreed with; there
> were lots of points there that I thought were fine.

We do agree ocasionaly dont we ? :)

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