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From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: APDS
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:39:58 +0100
On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Stuart Marsh wrote:

> I mentioned this a while ago on the list, it says when you fire APDS through
> barriers the power of the APDS firing weapon is halved.
Not so against normal barriers the rating of the *barrier* is halved
when firing through, just like body armour (check the APDS description).

What bothers me is what happens to APDS versus Vehicle Armour, in the
APDS description is says that teh power of teh round is reduced by half
the rating of the *vehicle* armour. But is this reduction in addition to
the normal reduction?

IE Does a 9M APDS round do 8L damage to a vehicle with a Body:3 and
Armour:2 (Power of 9 reduced by Half the Armour Rating and down one stage
as versus a vehicle)?

OR does the 9M APDS round do 3L? (Power of 9 reduced by half the Armour
Rating (-1), then reduced like a normal round by the Body of the vehicle
(-3) and the Armour Rating of the Vehicle (-2)=3)?

Or does the armour rating of teh car's Body get halved as per normal
versus APDS?

If its the first suggestion then it seems APDS are unbelievably effective
versus hardened armour (in fact it would seem teh Vehicle armour would
*help* it penetrate the Body!!!!!!!!!!)

If its the second suggestion then it implies that APDS are worse against
Hardened armour (as I first believed). But wouldn't it have just been
easier to say:

"Against Vehicle Armour the Power of the weapon is reduced by 1.5 (round
down) the rating of the Vehicle armour, and also by the *full* rating of
the vehicle's Body."

This seems okay to me as against unarmoured vehicles the power of the
round would be reduced by HALF teh Body rating; but if against Vehicle
Armour the Hardened bit is hit first and negates the penetration
effectiveness of the APDS round -thus the Body rating is *not* halved.

Thus against Critters and Gel packs the armour has 1.5 times it's normal
rating.

But this si my interpretation, I just wish we could get a clarification
from FASA, especially as we don't even know if APDS are supposed to be
effective against Hardened armour or worse than normal rounds.



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