| From: | Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Who would survive. |
| Date: | Sat, 24 Jun 1995 16:53:32 +0200 |
> > > 16 spirit'...
> > Well It might be cheap as a fast responce team for ultra high threat
> > situations, but I dont think that its that suited as a security
> > measure. A spirit would be way better for that job. [...]
> I ruled it out, on second thought, because shamans aren't supposed to
> be able to fit into the nine-to-five love-the-corp mental mould. They're
> too maverick. Using a hermetic is more realistic.
The CSH adresses that question. It says that hermetics get those
jobs most of the time, but there are shamans of specific totems
(wolf, dog, etc.) that are perfectly suited for such tasks and they
tend to perform even better than hermetics as they view the
installation as their "domain" and their co-workers as thier "pack".
So I still think that a spirit would be better suited.
> > [...] but I dont think
> > that its feasible for your average run-of-the-mill corp.
>
> I disagree. Let's do some expenses, eh? :-)
>
> Say you contract a good mage (Conjuring 8, Spirit Focus 4), and pay her
> 50K per day. Your corp has 4 mages for in-house security (3 shifts,
> one spare) - their wages are already budgetted.
Conjuring 8 is not just good, its probably the best they'll ever
see. The way I see it a skill of 6 is very good, very good profesionals
have such skills. A person with a skill of 8 would be one of the
best in town or even the whole state/country.
But 50K a day would be enough for such talent :)
> 1 in 72 of getting a 16 using 1 die, so with 12 dice you've got a
> 85% chance of failure, so you expect to take 7 goes to do this
> right.
>
> So you pay her 350K for the week, 7 x 2x5K for a week's worth of
> cancelling elementals (pairs of Force 5, pre-summoned by your
> hard-working in-house mages), and 16K for the hermetic circle
> and 7 x 16K for the materials for each attempt.
>
> Total: 548K
>
> I agree, only the biggest corps will bother with this; and since
> it's a one-shot, they'll only use it when loss is likely to exceed
> this.
Yep.
> luke> Without such cancelling-elementals, I'm more convinced than ever
> luke> that almost no group of normal shadowrunners could survive this -
> luke> unless they had prepared for it in advance.
>
> > Firearms wielding cybered runners have a snowball's chance in hell.
> > But people that know a thing or two about melee combat and perhaps
> > have a weapon focus or two and the support of a gutsy magician
> > would probably stand a chance. Melee combat intensive groups
> > with one or more PAs and mages should stand a good chance against it.
>
> Remember, the elemntal has been given a big club (so: no Reach advantage),
> to attack them in a naroow corridor (so: no friends-in-melee benefit), to
> wield with 16 skill.
>
> Thre's only one way they're going to survive, if they can't cancel, and
> you've hinted at it.
>
> The mage has to go flat out banishing. This occupies the spirit for
> 1 action (until it wins and the mage loses 1 magic, and it turns its
> attention to the others). Meanwhile, the hand-to-hand types have
> had a chance to beat on it without it fighting back.
>
> If the hand-to-hand types can wear it down before the mage runs out
> of magic, or if there are enough mages acting often enough, ...
>
> It'd still be close. Could be a very dramatic scene...
Yep. Woa we actually agree :)
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