From:	P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject:	Re: Why Close Combat really sucks
Date:	Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:40:30 BST

> Some sort of gun-free combat skill is essential. Unarmed needs to be very
> high - we let people concentrate into various martial arts just to get more
> dice, to offset the reach disadvantage - but armed runs the risk of not
> having anything handy to hit with (although anything, technically, will
> do - a chair, a rock, a vase (once))

There is of course, that (thai?/philipino?) martial art where they teach
club and knife, the two most easily found weapons as well as some very
vicious unarmed techniques, I forget the name... I have seen people hitting
each other with their guns very often, most AR's get borken iun my games that
way, someone swings it from the butt as a baseball bat, and ends up bending
it over the other guy (hey, there are a lot of 10+ strengths floating around,
a rifle may be tough, but tough enough to survive a troll trying to beat a
car to death with it?). The number of times Boar has run out of ammo, forgotten
how to reload and then hit someone witha very expensive gun....we try not
to buy him more than one clip per waepon now :-)


>Some PCs have skimped on melee skills, but the player generally only does
>that once. Get your gun taken away and you're screwed, because they don't
>even have the means to beat someone up to steal a firearm.
It happens very commonly, after all most tidy meets won't let you in with
a firearm. The same thing goes for fetishes too, i got beat up, and left
naked outside a bar, they took all my combat fetishes, and I couldn't even
cook the door to go back and get them :-(


I think the best piece of improvised weaonry I've ever seen ahs to be
the business end of a badger that tried to attack the characters, it
was closely followed by an imporvised air bladder made from the bladder
of one of their other kills! That adventujre got pretty messdy, none
of them even hesitate to take their underwaer off, fill it with sand
and piss on it it to get it wet, and make decent saps...

Sometimes I wonder about my players...especially after the bladder...

Phil (Renegade)