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From: Kelly Martin <kelly@*******.BLOOMINGTON.IN.US>
Subject: Re: focus question
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:23:39 EST5
"Mark" == Mark Steedman <RSMS@******.EEE.RGU.AC.UK> writes:

Mark> i think i made a comment on that it was rather pointless turning
Mark> on most foci if they are not touching you - exactly because of
Mark> this rule!

not only is it pointless, it's also not supported by the rules,
except in the case of a spell lock. i guess i still don't understand
what you're trying to say.

btw, "on the person" and "touching" aren't the same thing. i'd say
that "hanging from my belt" is on my person, even if i'm not actually
touching it.

>> what you describe more closely matches the rules for activating
>> _spell locks_, which follow different rules than for other foci.
>> weapon foci are not spell locks. :)

Mark> i was trying to save typing time and assuming folks new they
Mark> were a special case as i allowed for spell locks on other
Mark> people.

the rules allow for that too. spell locks can be anywhere, and that's
an exception to the general rules for foci.

>> you're misreading the rules, i think. a weapon focus would not be
>> automatically activated nor deactivated by the act of drawing it.
>> spell locks are the only foci which are deactivated by moving them.

Mark> no i have not, you've misunderstood me, i indicated that 1 thing
Mark> is the offical rules and that i don't particularly like them so
Mark> this is i the solution i have used and seen others use. note
Mark> first sentance above.

i'm just saying that i don't _like_ this change, and i think you're
using it because you misunderstood the foci rules, specifically in
that you seem to think a focus deactivates when you cease to touch it,
which isn't true.

imo, you don't have to be touching a weapon focus to activate it; you
could activate before you draw it if you wanted.

>> for _all_ melee weapons, you can't both ready the weapon and then
>> attack with it in the same phase, because readying a weapon is a
>> Simple Action, and melee is a Complex Action. so you use one
>> Simple Action to draw, and the other (which you'd otherwise not
>> use) to activate the lock.

Mark> far too long since i actually read some of these rules :(, you
Mark> might be right though readying any weapon is a simple action,
Mark> you can instead quickdraw, easy it may seem but if you have
Mark> penalties, (running wounds etc) it soon reaches target 6 and
Mark> easy to fail.

you can't quickdraw and enter melee, though; quickdraw only applies to
weapons which can be used with a simple action, and the only way you
could possibly use a sword in a simple action would be to throw it.
specialized moves aside, you can't fight with a sword you haven't
drawn yet.

Mark> I think we have a case of too different opinions and crossed
Mark> wires here, that might explain why you seem to be busy telling
Mark> me things i know. I could be wrong on quickdraw but usually
Mark> prefere to play the game rather than read rulebooks, and memory
Mark> is never perfect. I do check up on rules eventually if a problem
Mark> comes up but don't have time to regularly refresh my memory on
Mark> everything (common problem ? hey :) )

i've spent the last few weeks refamiliarizing myself with the rules,
since i've been out of it for a year or so and am decidely rusty. SR
combat rules are quite complex, and often ad hoc adjudications are the
best way to go anyway.

k.
--
kelly martin <kelly@*******.bloomington.in.us>

Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very
important part of your life. -- Brooke Shields

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