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From: pran r mukherjee <pran@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Everyone(almost) who plays Shadowrun is a Munchkin!
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:59:56 -0400
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Brian Spaugh SLIP wrote:

> Unless you play a character with no combat spells, or no
> cyberware, depending on whether you're a mage-type or a street
> sam-type, you're playing a Munchkin character. I mean who

I personally play a moon druid mage with no cyberware, bioware, combat
spells (including manipulations), or combat skills. He's basically a
fixer who specializes in smuggling people and items where they need to
be. And who says that everyone needs to play a "mage-type or a street
sam-type"? These are by far not the only options open.

> plays a street-sam with no cyberware? Noone. If everyone played
> what all the snobs on here would call 'realistic' Shadowrun
> (what a laugh) the only people with cyberware would be those
> who had already received a seriously traumatic injury. Elective
> deadly surgery? I think not. Replacing burned out or blind eyes

Why not elective deadly surgery? If someone told you that you could be
far stronger than Arnold Schwartzenegger (sp?) within a couple of days of
surgery and a couple weeks of healing with little or no work on your
part, and you wanted to go out and be someone's bodyguard, you'd jump at
the chance.

> with electonic ones that can see is 'realistic'. Plucking out
> perfectly good ones during character creation for the 'total
> package eyes' is ludicrous. And that's just one example. As far
> as magic goes, Phys Ads are walking Munchkins. 'Nuff said. And
> any mage out here with a force 6+ fireball/powerball/hellblast/
> sleep/mind probe/etc. is just as much a Munchkin as the next guy.
> Obviously there are going to be absurd exagerations of these
> cases, and these are worthy of condemnation, but let's lay off
> all of those players who are just trying to create a character
> with 'survivability', a hot commodity in SR. After all, we're
> all Munchkins underneath!

Untrue. We have this argument every few months on this list, so I won't
expound greatly on the subject, but you don't really seem to have a clue
what is meant by the word Munchkin. A munchkin is someone who plays just
to have the most powerful character around rather than for the fun of
it. He/she twists any rule possible in order to gain this power, doesn't
really care much for plot or roleplaying, just personal character power.
If you had said mage with 6+ force powerball, force 6 specific spell
focus, fetish foci up the wazoo, etc and never really used anything else,
never roleplayed, just made a point to incinerate anything that got in
your way, that could be considered munchkin. I've already said more than
I wanted to, so I'll shut up now.

>
> Brian Spaugh bspaugh@***********.net Angela Spaugh
> "Honest to my own convictions, within the defined parameters of my
mission."
>

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