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From: Paul Jonathan Adam <Paul@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: vehicle combat question
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 10:59:30 GMT
In message <199509170828.LAA11106@********.physics.auth.gr>
SHADOWRN@*****.nic.surfnet.nl writes:
> Since the RBB doesn't make it clear, I think it is a matter of interpretation.
> Still my main argument for believing that turrets require an action to be
> spent is that I don't want fixed arc weapons and remote turrets to be the same
> in the game. Turrets are the only ones that can be made Anti-Air capable,
> the only ones that can fire in 360 degrees, the only ones that can be mounted
> with cannons, they can be fixed to be 100% conceilable etc. and I don't think
> that the amount of money that it costs and the CF that it needs actually "pay
> off" for the "power" that it offers to the rigger.
> --Nick :)

What happens to a turret if the rigger doesn't spend an action, then?

I mean, on a B-17, if the pilot leaves his seat to get coffee, the aircraft
is uncontrolled. It might spin, stall, crash into another aircraft...

If one of the gunners leaves *his* turret, what happens? The guns don't
fall out of the mounts, the turret doesn't lock onto and fire at a
friendly... it just sits immobile until the gunner uses it again.

The rigger controlling a remote turret doesn't have to spend any actions
at all on it IMHO. But if he doesn't control it he can't use it. Turrets
*are* far more flexible than fixed or pintle mounts, but they also allow a
GM more margin for malice...

"I swing the turret around and open fire!"
"There's a sad squeal of seized bearings. You remember what the old mechanic
said about changing the turret seals... and how you thought it was too
expensive..."

Hard to do that with a fixed or pintle mount. Pintle mounts can be
detached, fixed mounts hidden... turrets are *large* and not easily
hidden. Look at the size of a 7.62mm machine gun and 800 rounds of ammo:
that's a bulky package, and that's only a MMG. It might retract, but
any police officer leaning in through your window to ask for your
licence and registration will see hydraulics and ammo belts.

--
"When you have shot and killed a man, you have defined your attitude towards
him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
or for worse, you have acted decisively.
In fact, the next move is up to him." <R.A. Lafferty>

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk

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