From:	Luis Navarro <lnavarro@*******.COM.MX>
Subject:	Re: Invisible hermetic circles
Date:	Fri, 29 Sep 1995 02:36:54 CST

>Gurth wrote:
>>
>> In that way you're still making a visible circle, and I was asking about
>> whether it would be possible to _not_ draw a visible circle but still=
have
>> one.
>
and Robert Watkins wrote:
>Use invisible ink! (Better not make it a fire elemental, though. Oops, most
>invis inks are soluble. Hmm... Water elementals are out. And the incense
>needed to get Air elementals might make it fade in, as well. Still, you can
>summon Earth elementals, at least. :) )
.....Ja

>On a more theoretical basis: if you can't see the stupid circle, how do you
>know you've drawn it right? On the astral plane you can't really examine
>the details. Add a lot to the TN of the test. For that matter, introduce a
>test. I vote for a Magical Theory test, TN = DIAMETER of the circle=
(which
>is 3 meters plus the force of the circle).

.....???????????
>
>On a REALLY serious basis: a circle is a link back to you. Now, if you use
>a real material, you can disperse it, breaking the link. If you only think
>it into existance, how do you dispell it? Is it like sustaining a spell? Or
>does the construct gain an astral life of it's own, and have to be
>destroyed (treat as a Barrier to destroy it, perhaps?)
>
.....Look guys, firstable, "INTENTION" is the the first rule in magicK (whit=

"K")
,you dont have to draw a circle, just imagen it is there, it doesnt have to=
be
even round,and this circle doesnt exist only in the astral, but in all
planes...Of course is not a link back to you, but works like a protection...
when you are in the circle, you put limits on the space, and if you like you
can work whit Elements, it is better if you ask first for help to the=
Archangels
(Michael...east,Adonai...North...Uriel...west...Gabriel..south)and try to=
work
whit the Elemental Kings, if you prefer, one at a time....
Most of the students in Alt Magick, knows that the Mage, doesnt have to work
on a real temple, we already have one on an upper plane......
..Every thing you´ve created, gains life of its own, and you are=
responsable
of that life, how many times have you say something realy bad to a person?
and you mean it, whit all the intention, here, you are creating a form of=
life
that (belive it or not) will afect to the other people, and in an inderect=
form
also to you.....this kind of life is easy to destroy...here is a good trick,
just draw the thing you have created, make the Banishing Ritual, and then if=
you
like, burn the paper, and think whit all your will, that the thing is=
gonne...
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Luis Navarro L.V.X * MagicK, is all Intention, is the art to change
lnavarro@*******.com.mx * at will