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From: TopCat <topcat@******.net>
Subject: Re: RPGs on their way out?
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:02:51 -0500
>Roleplaying is going out, now it's just card games. Those companies which
>don't make card games may not survive -- just look at GDW -- which is of

Just look at Wizards of the Coast. You mean you didn't know they are just
short of bankrupt?

A lot of people associate the "fall of rpg's" with how D&D does. It's
dying, and I for one think it's about time. The game system sucks. D&D is
a old and tired horse that's been beaten near to death, waiting for the rpg
equivalent of a trip to the glue factory.

Shadowrun has picked up considerably. All White Wolf games do extremely
well (the new V:tDA book is GREAT!). The HERO system is still around and
kicking in all its forms. GURPS is drawing converts by the day.

A lot of gamers like strategy oriented games so Warhammer 40K, Necromunda,
Battletech, and many others are very hot now. I don't begrudge these
people, I'm glad they're around to dump cash into the industry.

Some card games do very well. Among the most popular of late (around here
anyway) are Overpower (because Marvel Comics have sucked so bad for the past
5 years, the fans had to go somewhere for entertainment), Highlander
(because of how the game is organized), and V:tES (because White Wolf gamers
want cards too *grin*). People around here are ditching their Magic decks
for whatever trade they can get in a new card game.

Does this mean card games are dying? No, but it means the shine has worn
off and people are expecting more from the industry. The market is also
flooded with a lot of different card games and many of them are failing
miserably because of it. Basically, the supply has now surpassed the
demand, pick your card game of choice carefully.

Also, rules at cons make most card players avoid them altogether (people
love their stacked decks and I would too if I spent that much time/money
getting one). A few games are worked so that deck-stacking can only get you
so far (Highlander comes to mind), so those types of card games be the new
darlings of the market. At least in this area.

Just thought I throw out some financial info for the fun of it...

Some final bits that some may know and others may not. HERO games is now
working with R. Talsorian (those CP2020 people). Marvel is nearing its
final day (they've already leased out most of their titles). Shadowrun is
getting tons of new toys (check http://www.fasa.com/). Buy Sirius comics as
fast as you can and go to a con a couple months later (you'll at least
double your money). Hmmm...guess that'll be all.

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* Golden Tiger Association -- Submission Fighting Team *
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