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From: Tom Pendergrast <pendergr@***.EDU>
Subject: RE: Mages vs Shamans
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 23:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
> None, of course. But he does have 20 body. Or was it higher? I can't seem
> to find my copy of him around... Nevertheless, bring on the manabolt. I'll
> take my PAC to the party and we'll see who passes out first.

((And your WILLPOWER is.... <racial max of *5* buddy>))

> >((In our old group, the STARTING OUT MAGE, kicked the crap out of the
> >relatively experienced cyber-chars... I would put one of our starting
> >mages up against any starting cyber-char anytime.))

> Your starting out samurai weren't the TT or the GBD.

((That's right, they weren't. They were flesh and blood characters, with
a personality and spirit, background and history... not some munchkined-up
cyber-monster who is obviously from the stats-on-a-page school of
powergaming.))

> How many samurai you
> know that can throw 30 dice into their attack roll at the start? GBD can.
> That's gonna hurt. And bad.

((Yeah, and WHY does said monster have all this? Was he merely an
experiment in powergaming or have you deluded yourself into thinking that
guy will fit into any campaign, power or otherwise. Forgive me if I have
a hard time believing any of your answers, but how in the hell did you
get 30 dice? Or was that another muchkin trick?))

> >> Initiate 8, huh? How
> >> about you go up against my street sam with a MBW4, muscle aug, synaptic
> >> accelarator 1, and an unarmed combat skill of 12.

> >((How many millions did you spend on this joker? After two years of
> >gaming, Garth has spent less than 100K on weapons and foci...))
>
> He's got 4 locks (minimum) and has spent less than 100K on his weapons and
> foci... hmmm.

((Hello moron-boy... have you ever heard of ENCHANTING???))

> >((The bullet has to hit the chummer first... have you never heard of
> >BARRIER sells and related?))
>
> Sure have, but is your starting mage's barrier spell powerful enough to
> handle a PAC?

((Well, let's see here... (starting char mind you) force 6 x-barrier,
exclusive, ex fetish, locked... effectively force 10. Combine that with
say, heavy security armor, and I'm llokin' for ONES on the resistance
test. Or perhaps I'll gel-pack the chummer, in which case I'll take no
damamge whatsoever... and for those of you that don't believe I can get
Gel-packed heavy security armor, I'll just get it from the same place
that the assault cannon came from...))

> >((Again... I'm talking a starting about a starting mage... no initiation,
> >no skills over 6, low attribs... and he still beats experienced Sammies...))
>
> Experienced in karma, but not in combat. You need better samurai like I
> need better mages (but no GM in his right mind will let me play a mage).

((I'm sorry, but I need nothing... YOU need better mages and REALISTIC
samurai...))

---Tom---

P.S.- No offense was intended, or taken, unless someone intended it in
the first place...

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