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From: bqtech1@***.pipeline.com (Andrew Ragland)
Subject: Re: High profile guns and magic
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:59:42 GMT
On May 16, 1996 11:56:10, 'Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>' wrote:


>all that). In addition, there is the self-defense option, but in that
>case you have to show that you had no other spells that would work ("He
>was 2 meters away, and even if I OverStimulated him into oblivion, he
>could probably have shot and killed me!").

Depends on where you are. In Tennessee, the retreat to the wall doctrine
has been modified pretty heavily. I'd use the same basic mods for all of
the CAS, as the general philosophy is the same throughout the South. If you
in a public place, you must attempt to get away from the situation until
retreat is no longer possible before lethal force can be justified.
However, if you are in your residence or your place of business, you are
considered to already be at the wall. Nobody should have to flee their home
to preserve their life. Therefore, if someone threatens to kill you, and I
mean seriously is trying to do it, in your home or office, you can kill
them without attempting to flee and plead self-defense. You can also use
lethal force to preserve other life. If you are out on the street, and you
see a mugging, and the mugger has a gun and tells his victim "I'm going to
kill you", you can justify shooting the mugger through the head. You'll
probably get reamed out in court for not attempting non-lethal means, but
the law is on your side. That and a decent lawyer will get you a walk.

The point here is that lethal force is considered justified even when there
are non-lethal means available, depending on the situation. I personally
know of a situation, and no I won't discuss it in detail as there is no
statue of limitations on this sort of thing, where an elderly woman shot a
burglar as he was crawling in her window. Blew him away. The first cop on
the scene, who told me the story, said he helped the old woman get the body
completely inside the house, so that she could claim self defense and the
incident could be written off. If the report had shown the body hanging out
the window, the self-defense plea wouldn't have worked. The guy had to be
all the way into the house. It also helped that he was carrying a weapon "a
crowbar" and was a lot younger, bigger and in better shape than the old
woman.

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