From:	"Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject:	Re: Heavy Vehicle - Armor and Weapons
Date:	Fri, 17 May 1996 13:43:42 GMT

Gurth writes
>
[very good explanation of barriers trimmed]

> > A vigilant (20D) will both damage a vehicle with 18 armor and
> > degrade the armor as well. By how much? Based on its base power
> > or its BF/FA power?
>
Assuming you take the view
Hardened = barrier. i will discuss this below.

> Its base PL. Its PL is 20, while the EBR is 36.
with regular ammo yes.

> 20 is less than 36, but
> more than one-half of 36, or 18. The BR goes down by 1, so the EBR is now
> 34.
yep.

> Unless you use the b) rule for the Panther cannon, and assume the Vigilant
> fires explosive shells.
well improved explosive ammo is availability 6, so kind of likely

> In this case, its BR would go down by 10 (to 8),
> and a 5-meter hole is made in the armor.
>
and then the rest of the 12? round burst! [12? as you cannot fully
recoil compensate a full burst from this cannon, the most i managed
was 10, but IPE 32D is enough!]

round 2 does even more damage, no armour, oh say it was 10 rounds ipe
that leaves 20+8+2 = 30D vs no armour!! thats a bit fatal!

>
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now note that vehicle armour is considered the same as hardened
critter armour (the latter refers to the former), you are therefore
implying that the same happens to critters? I'm not very keen i'm
afraid.

My interpretation of the vehicle armour comments on 'barrier like' is
that it only means with respect to 'rounds with a base (not moded for
burst etc) power equal to or less than the ARMOUR rating' will bounce
off, no roll to resist, with APDS even the Banshee is still easy
enough to hurt (A ranger arms SM3 with APDS will do a true 2M [(18 +
6)/2 = 12, 14S - 12 = 2S, vehicle stagedown = 2M]) ok destroy is
another matter but it is supposed to be a military! vehicle in a game
for folks with 'special forces small arms' as typically the best
weapons (as getting caught is usually such bad news if you need
anything bigger you have already lost).

Mark