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From: TopCat <topcat@******.net>
Subject: Re: Killing in Shadowrun...
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 01:03:11 -0500
>Yeah, sure. People knocked out can always describe you. Things like
>"...and the third guy had 'Topcat' on his nameplate, was about 1.89 m tall,
>and a slight [insert place here] accent. His business card says he's
>reachable at...". While going around shooting people will just tell
>the corp what kind of weapon you are carring (with nonlethal weapons the
>same, OK) and you are willing to inflict whatever damage you can.

Many people replied along this line and I have the same exact answer for
each and every one of them. Mind Probe. Corps would be more than willing
to do this to find out the identity of the runners, don't you think? Cheap,
effective, and perhaps the best use of mages that corporations have. They'd
actually be seeing the runners as the guard saw them instead of listening to
his drivel. Also, why not put miniaturized cameras on sec-guards helmets.
We can do that today and I'd guess they've gotten smaller, cheaper, and more
durable by 2057. Smile for the camera, shadowboy.

>Yo, now THAT convinces me. Confidence. See what we did, we sent out a
>team (which cost us just about [insert whatever you like]) and just TRASHED
>four civilians, err, Shadowrunners, err, terrorists. See how strong we are?
>They resisted being shot, that proves they are criminals. Do you like me
>now? *sigh*

No, they'd say: "The terrorists who infiltrated our site last week have been
handled. Now, could we get some coffee over here?". It's all in a days
work. Never mention that they were civilians (they weren't, they lacked
SINs). As far as the world knows, they didn't exist. Just more
unregistered trash rotting in a dumpster somewhere.

>...and building up such a rep will ensure no runner will work for
>you when you need 'em. Maybe some will even lower their prices AGAINST
>you, since runners are people. Corps are not.

Runners do it for the money. There are a few groups of fluffy cuddly
Barnie-runners out there who'll take jobs for less or even for nothing
because they're against "the bad guys", but there are also groups of runners
out there who'd ace their mothers for a wad of nuyen. Then there's every
runner in between who'll take what the job is worth and do it as it needs to
be done. Runners aren't people to corps, they're weapons.

>>No, but it does mean hunt. The runners may not even know that they are
>>being hunted or even by who. It could be that other shadowrunner team
>>across the bar. Or that gang of trolls hanging out at the corner. Or it
>>could be your own fixer setting you up for a fall. All of those are
>>deniable assets. The public probbaly won't even know those runners died,
>>but the shadows will know that they did, why they did, and who did it.

>...but you said "thrust in confidence" and "shareholder know",
didn't you?
>In this same mail? Hello? Read what you write, will you?

Different things can happen for different situations. The runner community
is not the public. The shareholder community is not the public. The
corporate community is not the public. Any of those could find out what
happened through any variety of means. Just because it isn't plastered all
over every news channel doesn't mean that it is perfectly hidden. It might
even be hidden from all save a select few, if the situation would be best
handled that way.

I do read what I write. I would hope you would understand it, but sometimes
that doesn't happen.

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"I was thinking of the immortal words
of Socrates, who said: I drank what?"
-- Real Genius
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TopCat at the bottom...

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